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Ms makes 8B a quarter don't pay devs for over 2 months due date (that is already some time latter than when they collected customer money) and there are still people supporting ms on this? What would they say if their employer withhold their payment for so long and to boot showed how weathly they live they would like?

And this is after Phil, friend of gamers and lover of indies assumed. A company don't change its phylosophy because one guy were fired. Ms always were a cutthroat company in its dna and anyone who think Phil changed company mindset or that he and others still there supported don mattrick plan is fooling himself. Like if mattrick alone would set the whole police and strategy of Xbox division against all other employees and top management. And 0 rebellion to show they didn't like it.

If Sony didn't paid people would say they are to broke to pay, if MS don't pay dev is at fault. I doubt they missed ea payments for exclusives.
And people still want to discuss how we don't give them the benefit of doubt or think Sony is better or more supportive to indies.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Two months pass and everyone is just hearing about this? If everything was done as asked MS should pay and add some



Boo. Bad Microsoft, bad.



Pay your devs Microsoft.



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

This needs to be fixed MS, this is horrible. I'm pro worker and pay.

Pay them on time, why the delay in pay? I'm going to write MS as I support them but this act is disgraceful.



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Chazore said:
Boy I can't wait for some dirt on Sony, who am I kidding, anything wrong done by Sony would easily be excused or swept under the rug.

We get bad news about Sony like every week. 



    

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I went one step further and posted on Xbox feed back pages. Get over there and support workers rights.
http://xbox.uservoice.com/forums/251653-xbox-com/suggestions/6799462-pay-your-indies-on-time-no-need-for-this



TheSting said:

Two months pass and everyone is just hearing about this? If everything was done as asked MS should pay and add some


And if you account everything it is 19 days after deadline (so not to long after because probably there were some interaction).

But the 64 days is after Q payment date. So for sales made in the beggining of the month they are paying 154 days after or more.

@DJEVOLVE: Yep, withold payment is the worst thing you can do. Make debt, don't pay banks, roll suppliers but pay your employees as they have no fault at it unless you duvude the full profit to justify holding on loss.

Even worse when the company profit in the billions.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

MoHasanie said:
Chazore said:
Boy I can't wait for some dirt on Sony, who am I kidding, anything wrong done by Sony would easily be excused or swept under the rug.

We get bad news about Sony like every week. 


This doesn't matter who's system you're a fan of, this is wrong. Don't downplay this, as a xbox member, I expect more from them. I would like to think we the fans will hold them to a higher standard then this.

Now go support my feedback and support your fellow labors.

http://xbox.uservoice.com/forums/251653-xbox-com/suggestions/6799462-pay-your-indies-on-time-no-need-for-this



mornelithe said:
binary solo said:
Never let is be said that there is only a Sony defence force. Gotta love how people just have to bring Sony into this when there's no real context for it.

OT if this is more widespread than just 2 indies then it's bad. If it's just these 2 indies then it's unfortunate for them but not really bad form on MS. The article could have done with a bit more research and at least anonymously quote some other indie sources experiencing the same thing. Not everyone is willing to openly bite the hand that might eventually feed them, but if they can protect their identity then they might be willing to share their experience. We don't have the truth of the situation yet, but right now it's not looking good for MS's current PR narrative.


poklane said:

Edit: via Neogaf, 3 more people who claim to be developers who haven't been paid their Q3 payment yet. Even one of them is considering not releasing future titles on Xbox, so it could also bite Microsoft in the ass.

OnPoint''Yeah, they haven't paid us either. This is becoming a real issue. Makes us question ever returning to a Microsoft release again, I can tell you that. Source

Robert at Zeboyd Games''We haven't gotten paid either. Unfortunately, this is nothing new for Microsoft - it feel like half the time they're late with XBLIG payments.'' Source

DSix''This is true, I have yet to get paid. I mailed their services, and they assured me "it would be solved in the coming weeks", but I need that money now, not in months when they finally figured how to input my fucking account numbers in their system.'' Source
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=944494


I posted your source on XBOX FEEDBACK page. I linked it, copied it and pasted some of the article. http://xbox.uservoice.com/forums/251653-xbox-com/suggestions/6799462-pay-your-indies-on-time-no-need-for-this