I am a hardcore nintendo fanboy, and even I admit they need third party games.

This is the type of deal it would take for me if I was running Nintendo to consider dropping dedicated console hardware:

- Alliance with Sony (sorry MS, don't trust you).

- 5-6 year term, at which time Nintendo can opt out of any agreement.

- Nintendo receives a 20% cut of Playstation royalty fees and a 20% cut of all hardware profit. In exchange they will make games for the PS4.

- Nintendo does not have to pay Sony any royalty fees.

- Sony and Nintendo agree to jointly develop a portable platform, Sony will make games for this platform, but Nintendo will be the lead brand and have lead control over it. Platform can be integrated into Sony cell phones, but Nintendo receives a flat-rate of $75/unit profit and the majority control over third party licensing fees.

- Nintendo/Sony agree to work together to bring certain Nintendo IP to television and movies, namely Legend of Zelda and an CG animated Nintendo Universe film (ala The Lego Movie and Wreck It Ralph).

In other words, it would have to be a very sweet deal. Though I think Sony would profit rather nicely from this setup also (Vita makes them nothing, getting in on Nintendo's next-gen portable and being able to integrate Nintendo's IP offerings into their cell phones would be a huge win for Sony).

Sharing some of the profit from the PS4 would string Sony a bit, but at the same time it would probably be a deathblow to MS by getting so many extra exclusive IP at once on top of already having momentum. With MS in the rear view, Sony wouldn't have to worry as much about doing things like price matching on price cuts or money hatting other third party IP.

Depends. Revenue from the portable deal could be big. Maybe even bigger than the console division itself. Sony's problem in the smartphone business is they have nothing to set them apart from the others even though they make some good phones. Add in Nintendo game support to their phones and suddenly I think a lot of people would buy a Sony phone versus just a "vanilla" Android device. 

I think in the end they would make more money, even a Zelda film franchise if done correctly I think could be an $1 billion/picture revenue generator and Sony's film division needs new IP to exploit as Disney is pretty much beating them to the punch with everything else.  

Nintendo really is sitting on a couple of gold mines with their IP that they're not properly exploiting. 

If they can go for the deathblow versus MS now too perhaps it can permanantly push MS out of the industry as their shareholders probably won't want another go in the game business if they get their nose bloodied too badly. Splitting a small minority of your royalty fees and profit base for a couple of years to move into a potential monopolistic position long term is good business. 

I don't want them to go 3rd party but #2 is my main problem with them..

I own WiiU, so I know first hand.

1) True, but let's downplay Sony's track record. A few YLOD 1-3 years after the consoles came out in no way compares to the RROD fiasco.

2) Do they?

Sony brought CD/DVD/Blueray, PS+ games, Share features, and Games marketed towards adults. Yeah Nintendo save the industry 30 YEARS AGO, but besides motion gaming I don't see much lately.

3) OMG yes they do. Sony and MS sell their consoles at a loss and give you WAY better bang/buck than Nintendo does. The Wii U has a $30 graphics card, 2GB of RAM, NO HDD, and a cheap tablet and yet it is 3/4th's the price of a PS4.

Hell the Wii was crazy cheaper to manufacture and only cost half as much as a PS3.

4) LOL the PS4 is the ONLY sony console to not have it.

5) You literally made no supporting argument here besides "I like the name Nintendo the most."

They don't force you to buy their console. If YOU want to play their games, then its up to you if you get their console or not. There's other games and apps that you could use/play, and BC too. On the other hand, you don't have to pay for online play if you don't want to, SONY/MICROSOFT are not forcing you to pay, but they're keeping content of the games you bought away from you. Your point #3 is a big lie.

1. the ps2 had some problems too.

2. sony didnt bring cd to console,sega did and they didnt started the adult gaming trend

3. that true, sony doesnt care about money, the ps3 was the best deal ever for consumers, the ps4 is still fine.

4. they droped it early with the ps3.

1. it was huge wth the ps2...

2. thats just not true, the ps1 was the first succesfull cd console, but not the first or the first affordable.

and no eye toy wasnt first...

Sega successfully targeted older players, they kind of had no choice because Nintendo was so dominant in the early 90s.

Sony didn't even really target "adults", it was more teenagers, and Sega was already doing that.

Crash Bandicott wasn't any more "adult" than Sonic the Hedgehog (a blatant rip off actually) nor was Toshinden any different from Virtua Fighter. NFL GameDay? Sega had been doing football sims for ages starting with Joe Montana Football. Attacking Mario in TV commercials? Pshaw, Sega did that years before, Mr. Bandicoot.

The Genesis was already the jock/college dorm console of choice because it was heavily aligned with EA Sports titles like Madden NFL. Sony was basically just copying Sega's playbook.

What Sony brought to the market was a more level headed approach, Sega and Nintendo were too prone to wildly bizarre decision making mostly due to their Japanese corporate structure. Sony being a more global company was willing to delegate moreso to their European and American divisions and that lead to a more "harmonized" attack whereas Nintendo and Sega seemed to be in a constant tug of war between the US/Western and Japanese divisions.

That and Sony really just had to sit and wait for both Sega and Nintendo to shoot themselves in the foot, and sure enough they both did with multiple bad decisions.

The "Play Station" (sounds like a Fisher Price toy) actually looked more like a toy, the Genesis/Mega Drive always looked like a pretty chic home stereo component, not a toy.