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NJ5 said:

@Kratos: I don't know what you're talking about. The PS3 was supposed to crucify both the 360 and the Wii as soon as it came out, taking much more than 50% marketshare. Both analysts and gaming fans alike used to say so.

@The Fury: That depends on the countries, I believe in Scandinavia and in Germany the 360 was outselling the PS3 before the latter got a 33% price cut. I'm not saying this will change radically, but the 360 could start regaining ground once Microsoft cuts their prices.

 


Yeah but when the ps3 was out, people started saying it won't sell, it will be the death of sony, they even wrote a book and a article about PS3 failure. IN 2005 they indeed said sony would own everyone.



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Well ,there has been some good japanese games released as Dynasty Warriors 6,Gran Turismo 5 Prologue ,Devil May Cry 4 ,Disgaea 3 ,Everybodys Golf 5 ...and the sales have improved when it happened .

By the way ,when MGS4 is released there the 80Gb is released with it so if the loss of BC is hurting the system there that should stop it .

I think the main problems with PS3 in Japan is price and design .Japanese are recently very price sensitive ...its difficult that a console triumphs while significantly more expensive that the competition .There are some otakus and hardcore gamers that wont care the difference in price and get it nonetheless but those are the ones getting the machine .And in the design the PS3 is too bulky and big for japanese liking .A PSthree slim would turn the tables even more that the PSP Slim there .



Rock_on_2008 said:
The PS3 received a 33% price cut a cheaper model was released. How about an even cheaper PS3 model with no hard drive ala the XBox 360 core. Discount the no hard drive model on PS3 by another 33%

They can NEVER do that.  It was a stupid move by Microsoft to begin with, but at least all 360 games are playable on the Core/Arcade.  If Sony released an HDD-less model, owners would be unable to play the growing amount of games that require installation.



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thekitchensink said:
MS: Heavily push Fable 2 when it comes out. Also, bundle GTAIV to grab themselves some who want the game but are undecided on the console.

Sony: price cut, and Final Fantasy will give it a big boost.

If Fable 2 is half as crappy as Fable was, then I hope they pretend it never happened instead of pushing it hard.



If microsoft want 360 to win europe make PES 360 exclusive. That will do so much more for sales than some GTA4 add ons ever could.



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Sony is fine in Japan, following the release of - Final Fantasy Xiii/Versus, Gran Turismo 5, MGS4, RE5, Tekken 6 etc...it will outsell the Wii week in week out in Japan.

Honestly you can't compete with that line-up, I expect the Wii 2 to be out by then.



krik said:

 Can't you guys get over the nonsense crap Sony PR put out at PS3's launch? By now Sony pretty much turned it around. They cut PS3 manufactoring costs and immediately lowered the PS3 price. They have some kick ass games coming out of their own studios and also great 3rd party support. They offer free online play and are working on making the PSN even better with Home, etc, and it's still going to be free. They have a great piece of hardware and a very reliable console.

 Eventually games like MGS4, FFXIII and GT5 will push more consoles in ALL regions. Free online play and Home will push consoles in ALL regions. Blu-ray will push consoles in ALL regions. Sony is in for a good 4-5 years, can the same be said for MS or even Nintendo?

 As far as I can see Sony is about to make history by turning a failed console launch into a very successful console.

Now my far fetched prediction... I predict a $299 PS3 with full software BC by Christmas 2008. Also next Christmas , the PS3 will more than double 360 sales (for the season) and will beat the Wii.

 


No offense Krik you sound like a GC fan from last generation. Everythign from lowering the price to games yet to come out.

Blu-Ray will only be a temporary bump it has won the HD format wars. More manufacturers and models will be build before the end of the year and competition will drive the price down to the sub 99 dollar range with in a year. The PS3 will not be able ot keep with the price drop and at below 99 dollars many people will just buy the Game Console of their choice + a Stand Alone Player.

This is not a PS3 is doomed thread though as there is room for many more price cuts than usual and the increase of sales from these bumps plus a higher weekly rate from being at more consumer freindly pricing will keep it respectable.



I really thought PS3 will own japan. Japanese love BlueRay and i thought they would buy PS3 a lot more than they are now.
Is there a cheaper BR player in japan?



Sony made the right console, in the wrong time. If they would have brought it out last christmas it would be more successful, or at least seen as more successful. As other said, the games are finally comming, there is only one direction the PS3 can take right know: Up. While I don't believe they will catch the Wii, they will make MS a hell of a fight. The PSP has shown that the second console can sell on the Japanese market.

If Sony can bring the PS3 slim for $299 this year (and I am hoping it for them) they will have a nice winter. The Wii and the PS3 does not compete to each other directly, I don't see a problem for the PS3 to have better sales in Japan then right now. The package just has to be right, and Sony is moving in the right direction.



DMeisterJ said:
Starcraft...

It's just a little too early to say that the PS3 is "stuffed" in Japan.

No games have came out recently, therefore, no sales. How hard is that to comprehend?

 Wii hasn't had any new big games for the same period and it still sells



 

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