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fishamaphone on 14 May 2007

Alex... please redefine your list. There are a lot of inconsistencies with it. There *are* trends, but you're obscuring them by adding in extra information that has no connection. If you want to do this on your own, don't ask for help... but if you're going to ask for help, you have to accept some criticism.



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windbane on 14 May 2007
a.l.e.x59 said:
windbane said:
a.l.e.x59 said:
windbane said:
BenKenobi88 said:
Blue3 has received a temporary ban for constant bad behavior. He's had warnings about behavior, and has never acknowledged my posts or even my personal messages, so...yeah...3 day ban.
For saying something that is clearly true? Why is it that people that say positive things about Sony get banned so easily? I guess all the ones on this forum are just that way...

 


Sure whatever he wrote might have been true, but if he wrote it in an bad way, then that is completely different.

For example:

"Playstation 2 achieved better sales than Gamecube and Xbox, because of its wider video game library, and strong third party support."

"Playstation 2 rocks. Only losers buy the Gamecube and Xbox. Gamecube and Xbox have no games at all. Everyone should buy Playstation 2. The rest just suck."

They both may be the truth (or at least in someone's opinion), but only the first sentence is acceptable. The other one is just idiotic.


Well, I think parts of this thread do suck. Jak dropping 5% may be "worse" but it's certainly not "sour" if you start with 90%.


Please look at my previous post to the post you took a quote from, and you will see my answer.


I was defending a banned guy.  But if you want me to directly respond to your absurd comment, then fine.  If the games improved over 90%, what do you expect them to get to?  Should every sequel be 100% after 2 or 3?

I find it funny you count combat racing.  If you go by a trend to determine the next game's score, then it would "likely" get 82%.  Last I checked, that's still good.   85.5% for the last game is hardly sour.

Next time should some gameranking scores to defend your comments rather than just posting your opinions. 



windbane on 14 May 2007

Just for fun, since you seem to favor the xbox in this analysis (by including some bought out Sony franchises and Nintendo games):

 

Good:  Halo 1 (97%)

Worse:  Halo 2 (95%)

 

I guess Halo 3 will get a 93%.  *gasp*

What a sour franchise. 



nintendo_fanboy on 14 May 2007

I think you are right about Star Fox, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro and Sonic.

But the other franchises are too short (Conker) or they are not all the same franchise (DK platformer, DKonga, DK: King of Swing) so you can't say that they have gone sour. Maybe the next Conker will be great and maybe Nintendo is going to announce New Donkey Kong Country for the Wii and those franchises will be beloved again.



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a.l.e.x59 on 14 May 2007
windbane said:
a.l.e.x59 said:
windbane said:
a.l.e.x59 said:
windbane said:
BenKenobi88 said:
Blue3 has received a temporary ban for constant bad behavior. He's had warnings about behavior, and has never acknowledged my posts or even my personal messages, so...yeah...3 day ban.
For saying something that is clearly true? Why is it that people that say positive things about Sony get banned so easily? I guess all the ones on this forum are just that way...

 


Sure whatever he wrote might have been true, but if he wrote it in an bad way, then that is completely different.

For example:

"Playstation 2 achieved better sales than Gamecube and Xbox, because of its wider video game library, and strong third party support."

"Playstation 2 rocks. Only losers buy the Gamecube and Xbox. Gamecube and Xbox have no games at all. Everyone should buy Playstation 2. The rest just suck."

They both may be the truth (or at least in someone's opinion), but only the first sentence is acceptable. The other one is just idiotic.


Well, I think parts of this thread do suck. Jak dropping 5% may be "worse" but it's certainly not "sour" if you start with 90%.


Please look at my previous post to the post you took a quote from, and you will see my answer.


I was defending a banned guy.  But if you want me to directly respond to your absurd comment, then fine.  If the games improved over 90%, what do you expect them to get to?  Should every sequel be 100% after 2 or 3?

I find it funny you count combat racing.  If you go by a trend to determine the next game's score, then it would "likely" get 82%.  Last I checked, that's still good.   85.5% for the last game is hardly sour.

Next time should some gameranking scores to defend your comments rather than just posting your opinions. 


Why don't you go to www.gamerankings.com, and see the scores for yourself?

And as for the title, ignore the word "sour." I don't know how to edit it out. I meant for the entire thread to be about "Games that continue to do worse then their predecessor."



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Blex on 14 May 2007
a.l.e.x59 said:
Blex said:
IMO donkey kong didnt go sour. they just stopped making platformer games and instead went in the direction of making jungle beat and any other game using bongos or the new racing game featuring donkey kong characters. all nintendo needs to do is create a good platformer DK game for wii and it will be back. i have faith that nintendo could do it hands down

 And that's why he went sour.


that doesnt mean it went sour. you dont call mario sour just because it had games like mario kart, mario party, and every other mario sports game out there. if a DK platformer came out and it could not sell like its predecessors and gets horrible reviews and panned by critics and they could not improve with every iteration that comes out, than i would call it sour.



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a.l.e.x59 on 14 May 2007

You're right. In fact, none of the games mentioned on my first list are sour. But is it just me, or are these franchises becoming slightly worse with every new game? Look at the reviews. It's kind of depressing. Sure, the trend isn't always there. Sonic and the Secret Rings got a better review than Sonic the Hedgehog, but there is definitely a downhill trend.