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anyone else seen all hell break lose after it though O_O
buildings burning
robberies everywhere
crazy people!



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Well he fought a police officer...he had it coming.



SocialistSlayer said:
Dulfite said:
My city is in flames right now and the only thing I can really say is that I so look forward to the return of Jesus. I'm weary of this type of nonsense, weary of the ignorance of politicians/athletes speaking on the matter, weary of people of certain races assuming that someone is innocent just because of the color of his skin, and weary of people burning down businesses/cars/and harming people that are completely unrelated to the case just so they can get a quick buck or have something to laugh about. It's sick.

It's simple. If you DON'T want a cop to shoot at you, you probably shouldn't try to beat the crap out of him or harm him in anyway.

do you actually live in ferguson, or like west county or something, or st. charles?

im near there, but do have family that actually live in ferguson


Most of my life in St. Peters, then St. Charles. I spend a decent amount of time in Chesterfield, live in Maryland Heights with my wife, and work in O'fallon. So I don't go directly into Ferguson but I have relatives and coworkers who have been directly impacted by this. A relative of mine's friend was the cop that was shot Monday night in one of the riots (that the media didn't bother reporting on until late today for some reason...).



Tachikoma said:
as with the UK riots a few years ago, while some are doing it out of emotion, many will be "aggressively protesting" without really caring for the cause and instead abusing it as an opportunity to run amock / destroy property / loot, etc.

u mean the student riots or the race riots?



generic-user-1 said:
Tachikoma said:
as with the UK riots a few years ago, while some are doing it out of emotion, many will be "aggressively protesting" without really caring for the cause and instead abusing it as an opportunity to run amock / destroy property / loot, etc.

u mean the student riots or the race riots?

Pretty much all riots.



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TheBlackNaruto said:

What consits of "interrogating"? Being a police officer gives you a right to question any person you choose to? Does that mean someone has to answer them whent hey are midning thier own business? Just asking quiestions here not saying that it is the same. So the cops are here to serve and protect the peopel but aren't trained to have a mindset to subdue? Just shoot ot kill? How can they not afford to have that mindset when they took an oath to protect?

The bolded confuses me instead of waiting for backup like they are trained to do he doesn't want to be a "pussy" and got out to try and detain a dangerous person by shooting thim 6 times? Where is the part where he tried to detain him? So because a "big guy" was charging at him that meant to unload your gun on him? Not a SINGLE other option for an unarmed man? A REGULAR man just like you and me. He may have been big but that doesn't mean his only option was to unload on him. Now in NO WAY am I painting MB as being innocent he was very much in the wrong for attacking on officer. Though looking at the pictures that were released the "beating" that he gave the officer didn't seem to justify death. But still should not have attacked the officer AT ALL. But to be gunned down and left in the middle of the street in a pool of blood is UNACCEPTABLE.

The way this ENTIRE case was handled was pathetic and there is NO justification for the loss of this life. You say he didn't want to be a pussy but he says he FEARED FOR HIS LIFE and was already in the car and could have called for backup and waited it out and found the suspect later and apprehended him. Especially since he was already fearing for his life that would have made more sense to me. I do not know all the facts and that is just my opinion and sadly there is only one side to this story seeing as the other person will never get a chance to tell their side of the story.  It is just sad case period and the system here definitely needs to be worked and handled a lot better. The ferguson police department as a whole made the situation even worse than it was because of how poorly it was handled.

To clarify, Wilson was responding to a call from dispatch, following  up on the 911 call  made by the convenience store in response to Brown's petty theft of a handful of cigars and assault of the convenience store clerk, which was recorded on the store's video system not long before the attempted arrest. The response was not a case of mistaken identity, racial profiling or some random interrogation.

Brown responded to the questioning with an expletive directed at Wilson, who then attempted to exit the patrol car, which Brown slammed shut, leading to Brown reaching into the patrol car when he struck Wilson two times, Wilson responded by drawing his weapon, Brown attempted to grab Wilson's firearm which wasn't discharged until the third attempt by Wilson. Brown's blood was on the weapon, corroborating the testimony and there was a medical report confirming Wilson had been struck more than once in the head. 

Wilson did call for back up before the shootings. He was attempting to detain a suspect based upon the call from dispatch for a man matching Brown's description, which was for a reported crime Brown was captured on video committing. 

The only facts, as presented by the jury that aren't clear, would be the testimony given by Wilson, seeing as there were conflicting reports given by Brown's friend present at the incident, and non-related observers. There were conflicting reports given by multiple observers. 

The biggest problems came from the lack of disclosure from the Ferguson PD until much later in the investigation. Wilson didn't have to give official testimony for the case until almost 30 days after the incident as he wasn't immediately charged with a crime. 



Tachikoma said:
generic-user-1 said:
Tachikoma said:
as with the UK riots a few years ago, while some are doing it out of emotion, many will be "aggressively protesting" without really caring for the cause and instead abusing it as an opportunity to run amock / destroy property / loot, etc.

u mean the student riots or the race riots?

Pretty much all riots.


well, normaly the people dont loot or burn down businesses(well banks burn, but thats something different) in riots. they throw things at police men, burn down police cars, etc.  

political riots dont destroy much of the city normaly. 



Matthewconner2100 said:
Well he fought a police officer...he had it coming.

Brown ignored a lawful order from a law enforcement officer who was following up on a call from dispatch for a man matching Brown's description. 

Brown subsequently reached into a patrol car to strike a law enforcement officer in the face repeatedly.

Brown attempted to take a law enforcement officer's firearm. 

That's according to the testimony and evidence as presented to the grand jury.

This doesn't mean Brown "had it coming" but the results of the incident really shouldn't have been terribly unpredictable to most people with a firm grasp of what all that entails. 



And as expected the minorities reacted like heathens proving that they don't actually care about justice or what the family wants. They just want to have a reason to cause violence and destruction.



Dulfite said:

I do not, as a Christian, hold to the belief that there is any specific action (other than accepting Christ as my savior) I can take or wisdom I can gain that would increase the chance of "meeting my creator." Everyone will be judged before the throne of God one day, but those who have accepted God's love through Jesus Christ will be saved. That is my belief. I do not believe in some intellectual ascension. I'm going to meet God one day 100% no matter how "open" my mind is and, thankfully, because of my love for Jesus that will be an incomprehensibly wonderful meeting.

Also, I was not suggesting I would be alive when Christ returns, rather I'm just really looking forward to HIS return.

Have you ever undergone a psychological evaluation? If not, I would recommend it.

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