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JazzB1987 on 25 November 2014
Euphoria14 said:
JazzB1987 said:

TBH Lets say I say something.  Why is it my job to deliver some evidence that supports my claim? You believe me?  Good for you. You dont ? Your problem. 
You want to know if I tell the truth go and investigate yourself. You dont care about what I say? Then ignore me.  Its as easy as that.

TBH if someone tells you something   he did more than was needed to enlighten you or give you something to think about etc.

I mean the "prove it" nonsense is the reason why 90% of people cant think for themselves. They want someone to do it for them. (or they accept anything as log as it is somewhat logica without considering that it might be bullshit at all)
And this is a normal forum/website. Just think about how empty it would be if everyone would need to have evidence for their claims.

"X is the best game ever. I enclosed a 1000 page document as evidence"  rofl :)

What a silly comparison.

Saying "X game is best ever" is subjective.

Claiming Sony servers are the same exact hardware from 2008 isn't.

 

So running into threads or comment sections on websites and throwing that around without any evidence to back it up is exactly why he got the reactions he did, and rightfully so.

its a silly comparison to you might not be to someone else.. And you didnt get what I said.


If YOU want to know what he is talking about why would HE take the time and look for it? He does not LOVE you so he probably does not care if you believe him or not you are a stranger that he will never have any kind of important relation with.

if he had the evidence saved on his desktop or as a browser bookmark okay  but if he saw this a long time ago and it would take some work to find it again you cant expect him to waste his time just for someone elses curiosity to be satisfied. 


You have several ways to reply.

#1 completely ignore him
#2 Reply "Really? didnt know"  and then dont do anything at all (gullible?)
#3 Reply "Really? didnt know"  and then try to find out whether or not he is telling the truth. (smart)
#4 Reply "Really? didnt know" and then demand evidence (lazy?)
#5 Reply "Nonsense" and then dont do anything at all. (stubborn? or 100% sure you are right)
#6 Reply "Nonsense" and then try to find out whether or not he is telling the truth.(not as smart as #3  but still smart)
#7 Reply "Nonsense" and then  demand evidence (lazy?)

If one cant be bothered to look for it even tho ONE wants to know it  why should he do it?  Think about it.

He might have deserved that kind of reply  but he also deserved all the other reply types i mentioned.



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method114 on 25 November 2014
JazzB1987 said:
Euphoria14 said:
JazzB1987 said:

TBH Lets say I say something.  Why is it my job to deliver some evidence that supports my claim? You believe me?  Good for you. You dont ? Your problem. 
You want to know if I tell the truth go and investigate yourself. You dont care about what I say? Then ignore me.  Its as easy as that.

TBH if someone tells you something   he did more than was needed to enlighten you or give you something to think about etc.

I mean the "prove it" nonsense is the reason why 90% of people cant think for themselves. They want someone to do it for them. (or they accept anything as log as it is somewhat logica without considering that it might be bullshit at all)
And this is a normal forum/website. Just think about how empty it would be if everyone would need to have evidence for their claims.

"X is the best game ever. I enclosed a 1000 page document as evidence"  rofl :)

What a silly comparison.

Saying "X game is best ever" is subjective.

Claiming Sony servers are the same exact hardware from 2008 isn't.

 

So running into threads or comment sections on websites and throwing that around without any evidence to back it up is exactly why he got the reactions he did, and rightfully so.

its a silly comparison to you might not be to someone else.. And you didnt get what I said.


If YOU want to know what he is talking about why would HE take the time and look for it? He does not LOVE you so he probably does not care if you believe him or not you are a stranger that he will never have any kind of important relation with.

if he had the evidence saved on his desktop or as a browser bookmark okay  but if he saw this a long time ago and it would take some work to find it again you cant expect him to waste his time just for someone elses curiosity to be satisfied. 


You have several ways to reply.

#1 completely ignore him
#2 Reply "Really? didnt know"  and then dont do anything at all (gullible?)
#3 Reply "Really? didnt know"  and then try to find out whether or not he is telling the truth. (smart)
#4 Reply "Really? didnt know" and then demand evidence (lazy?)
#5 Reply "Nonsense" and then dont do anything at all. (stubborn? or 100% sure you are right)
#6 Reply "Nonsense" and then try to find out whether or not he is telling the truth.(not as smart as #3  but still smart)
#7 Reply "Nonsense" and then  demand evidence (lazy?)

If one cant be bothered to look for it even tho ONE wants to know it  why should he do it?  Think about it.

He might have deserved that kind of reply  but he also deserved all the other reply types i mentioned.


Listen we get it the guy doesn't have to do anything he doesn't want to do. This is a forum though and I don't know how long you've been using forums but it's pretty much well known that when you make a claim you back it up with sources. No one is required to do it or anyhting like that but it is pretty much the consensus across the internet that this is the way things work.

Also when you don't provide this proof and refuse to it looks a little silly to then go and complain that people are calling you a troll and acting like you don't know why.



JazzB1987 on 25 November 2014
method114 said:
JazzB1987 said:
Euphoria14 said:
JazzB1987 said:

 

 

its a silly comparison to you might not be to someone else.. And you didnt get what I said.


If YOU want to know what he is talking about why would HE take the time and look for it? He does not LOVE you so he probably does not care if you believe him or not you are a stranger that he will never have any kind of important relation with.

if he had the evidence saved on his desktop or as a browser bookmark okay  but if he saw this a long time ago and it would take some work to find it again you cant expect him to waste his time just for someone elses curiosity to be satisfied. 


You have several ways to reply.

#1 completely ignore him
#2 Reply "Really? didnt know"  and then dont do anything at all (gullible?)
#3 Reply "Really? didnt know"  and then try to find out whether or not he is telling the truth. (smart)
#4 Reply "Really? didnt know" and then demand evidence (lazy?)
#5 Reply "Nonsense" and then dont do anything at all. (stubborn? or 100% sure you are right)
#6 Reply "Nonsense" and then try to find out whether or not he is telling the truth.(not as smart as #3  but still smart)
#7 Reply "Nonsense" and then  demand evidence (lazy?)

If one cant be bothered to look for it even tho ONE wants to know it  why should he do it?  Think about it.

He might have deserved that kind of reply  but he also deserved all the other reply types i mentioned.


Listen we get it the guy doesn't have to do anything he doesn't want to do. This is a forum though and I don't know how long you've been using forums but it's pretty much well known that when you make a claim you back it up with sources. No one is required to do it or anyhting like that but it is pretty much the consensus across the internet that this is the way things work.

Also when you don't provide this proof and refuse to it looks a little silly to then go and complain that people are calling you a troll and acting like you don't know why.


I understand this but its still no reason to call him a troll. He clarified why he wont deliver evidence.  So when you cant be bothered to look for it yourself you have no right to call him a troll. If you wasted 15 minutes or so and could find anything then thats a different story tho (but then would you prove that you wasted 15 minutes  because you claimed to do so? I dont think so)


I deliver evidence or at least presumptive evidence when i start a thread.   But I dont have time to deliver it for everything I say.  Sure it was not smart to say something as controversial that might end in a conversation like this but still its no reason to call him a troll.







Euphoria14 on 25 November 2014
JazzB1987 said:
Euphoria14 said:
JazzB1987 said:

TBH Lets say I say something.  Why is it my job to deliver some evidence that supports my claim? You believe me?  Good for you. You dont ? Your problem. 
You want to know if I tell the truth go and investigate yourself. You dont care about what I say? Then ignore me.  Its as easy as that.

TBH if someone tells you something   he did more than was needed to enlighten you or give you something to think about etc.

I mean the "prove it" nonsense is the reason why 90% of people cant think for themselves. They want someone to do it for them. (or they accept anything as log as it is somewhat logica without considering that it might be bullshit at all)
And this is a normal forum/website. Just think about how empty it would be if everyone would need to have evidence for their claims.

"X is the best game ever. I enclosed a 1000 page document as evidence"  rofl :)

What a silly comparison.

Saying "X game is best ever" is subjective.

Claiming Sony servers are the same exact hardware from 2008 isn't.

 

So running into threads or comment sections on websites and throwing that around without any evidence to back it up is exactly why he got the reactions he did, and rightfully so.

its a silly comparison to you might not be to someone else.. And you didnt get what I said.


If YOU want to know what he is talking about why would HE take the time and look for it? He does not LOVE you so he probably does not care if you believe him or not you are a stranger that he will never have any kind of important relation with.

if he had the evidence saved on his desktop or as a browser bookmark okay  but if he saw this a long time ago and it would take some work to find it again you cant expect him to waste his time just for someone elses curiosity to be satisfied. 


You have several ways to reply.

#1 completely ignore him
#2 Reply "Really? didnt know"  and then dont do anything at all (gullible?)
#3 Reply "Really? didnt know"  and then try to find out whether or not he is telling the truth. (smart)
#4 Reply "Really? didnt know" and then demand evidence (lazy?)
#5 Reply "Nonsense" and then dont do anything at all. (stubborn? or 100% sure you are right)
#6 Reply "Nonsense" and then try to find out whether or not he is telling the truth.(not as smart as #3  but still smart)
#7 Reply "Nonsense" and then  demand evidence (lazy?)

If one cant be bothered to look for it even tho ONE wants to know it  why should he do it?  Think about it.

He might have deserved that kind of reply  but he also deserved all the other reply types i mentioned.

He made a claim and he was asked for proof. It isn't anyone else's job to find out if he was right, especially if he says this is something he says regularly.

As for your "ways to reply": You post how you want and I'll post how I want.



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epicurean on 25 November 2014

I did a google search and can not find any information on ps4 servers using retired ps3 servers, but I only searched through 2 pages.



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tiffac on 25 November 2014
epicurean said:
I did a google search and can not find any information on ps4 servers using retired ps3 servers, but I only searched through 2 pages.


Then its all been a lie....

Google is NOT our friend! D:



method114 on 25 November 2014
JazzB1987 said:
method114 said:
JazzB1987 said:
Euphoria14 said:
JazzB1987 said:

 

 

its a silly comparison to you might not be to someone else.. And you didnt get what I said.


If YOU want to know what he is talking about why would HE take the time and look for it? He does not LOVE you so he probably does not care if you believe him or not you are a stranger that he will never have any kind of important relation with.

if he had the evidence saved on his desktop or as a browser bookmark okay  but if he saw this a long time ago and it would take some work to find it again you cant expect him to waste his time just for someone elses curiosity to be satisfied. 


You have several ways to reply.

#1 completely ignore him
#2 Reply "Really? didnt know"  and then dont do anything at all (gullible?)
#3 Reply "Really? didnt know"  and then try to find out whether or not he is telling the truth. (smart)
#4 Reply "Really? didnt know" and then demand evidence (lazy?)
#5 Reply "Nonsense" and then dont do anything at all. (stubborn? or 100% sure you are right)
#6 Reply "Nonsense" and then try to find out whether or not he is telling the truth.(not as smart as #3  but still smart)
#7 Reply "Nonsense" and then  demand evidence (lazy?)

If one cant be bothered to look for it even tho ONE wants to know it  why should he do it?  Think about it.

He might have deserved that kind of reply  but he also deserved all the other reply types i mentioned.


Listen we get it the guy doesn't have to do anything he doesn't want to do. This is a forum though and I don't know how long you've been using forums but it's pretty much well known that when you make a claim you back it up with sources. No one is required to do it or anyhting like that but it is pretty much the consensus across the internet that this is the way things work.

Also when you don't provide this proof and refuse to it looks a little silly to then go and complain that people are calling you a troll and acting like you don't know why.


I understand this but its still no reason to call him a troll. He clarified why he wont deliver evidence.  So when you cant be bothered to look for it yourself you have no right to call him a troll. If you wasted 15 minutes or so and could find anything then thats a different story tho (but then would you prove that you wasted 15 minutes  because you claimed to do so? I dont think so)


I deliver evidence or at least presumptive evidence when i start a thread.   But I dont have time to deliver it for everything I say.  Sure it was not smart to say something as controversial that might end in a conversation like this but still its no reason to call him a troll.

I'm not sure if you've read this whole thread or just jumped in the middle. I never called him a troll. He was the one claiming that whenever he says that, that peopel call him a troll. I explained to him why he was being called a troll (making a claim like that and providing no proof) I never personally called him one.

Also I did try to google search it myself but only spent about 3 minutes at most cause nothing came up quickly. I also found it rather coincidental that he at first claimed he had no proof. Then turned around and said he read the article here himself. 



keroncoward on 25 November 2014

Just look up Sony shutting down resistance, socom, and MAG servers is all im saying. Im not going to scroll through multiple articles to copy and paste just to prove what most of you here are already aware of.



epicurean on 25 November 2014

This is as close as I can find. But I'm done searching for things someone else is claiming is common knowledge and everybody is already aware of.

http://gamerant.com/ps3-resistance-gran-turismo-5-servers-shutdown/



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