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DSLover on 03 March 2008

It was a mistake on ms's part thats for sure.



 

 

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Ail on 03 March 2008
disolitude said:
FreeTalkLive said:

"They did it with the original Xbox. I'm not sure why they decided to not require a hard drive on the 360. From what I understand they don't move many [Core/Arcade] units," added McGuire.

 It is pretty easy to figure out why they did it.  MS can sell a version with a hard drive for at least $50 more (even though it cost them more like $10) and loss less money or make more money on the higher end system.  I guess the developer was just pretending to be stupid. 

 


Same can be said for Sony and rumble shock controllers. And nintendo and their lack of wii price cut even though they are making atleast 100 bucks on the damn thing. Sometimes developers say stupd things to get noticed...




PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Ail on 03 March 2008
disolitude said:
FreeTalkLive said:

"They did it with the original Xbox. I'm not sure why they decided to not require a hard drive on the 360. From what I understand they don't move many [Core/Arcade] units," added McGuire.

 It is pretty easy to figure out why they did it.  MS can sell a version with a hard drive for at least $50 more (even though it cost them more like $10) and loss less money or make more money on the higher end system.  I guess the developer was just pretending to be stupid. 

 


Same can be said for Sony and rumble shock controllers. And nintendo and their lack of wii price cut even though they are making atleast 100 bucks on the damn thing. Sometimes developers say stupd things to get noticed...

Why exactly should Nintendo cut the price of the Wii lol ?

They can't keep it in stock at the current price, the only thing a price cut would do is reduce their profit and still it would be out of stocks so it would only increase customers difficulties at finding me as it would sell out even faster.......



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

DMeisterJ on 03 March 2008
mrstickball said:
Dear Microsoft,

It is appearent your Xbox 360 isn't the perfect console. Therefore, I sugguest the following things to be featured on the Xbox 720:


#1. A HVD DVD Drive, capible of no less than 500GB of drive space. Certainly enough to satisfy even Metal Gear 5.

#2. Waggle controls that aren't to waggl-y

#3. A 5 TB internal harddrive. Preferably very fast read times so if there is installation, it's instantaneous

#4. A mind reader for the UI. Preferably something that isn't very intrusive to my everyday life.

#5. Hardware that is not only very, very fast (like 30 general purpose CPUs, ect), but very very easy to work with. Infact, I want a dev kit that I can think up the games, and it creates the games for me.

#6. A very fast selling console. See #7.

#7. A $49.99 USD pricetag to ensure #6 happens.

Kthxbye,
Developers










You kid, but I would love all of those things to happen.

BengaBenga on 03 March 2008

Dear Nintendo,

Please produce WiiHD exactly like Microsofts 720 as suggested by MrStickball and don't produce your own games anymore.

Regards,

Devs United



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TheRealMafoo on 03 March 2008
antfromtashkent said:
Ail said:
What I don't get is that Microsoft is touting around that everyone should get GTAIV on the Xbox360 because of the huge exclusive DLC content it will get.

Won't you need a hardrive to actually download that content or did I miss something ??

 well then u go to the store and buy a $60 20g harddrive :D


Not sure where they are $60. They cost $90 on newegg.

But the cost is not the point. Developers do not have the ability to rely on a HD when designing games. For example, one of the really cool things about Dungeon Siege is it streamed the level in the background as you played. From start to end there was never a load screen. It definitely helped immerse you in the game. It would be near imposable without a HD. Also, if I had the choice to extend my optical drives life by loading more game data from the HD, I am going to take that option each time. Lastly, a very large percentage of consoles sold by MS have a HD, so not giving developers the ability to rely on one hurts most MS customer. If a large % of cores/arcades sold, I would say it was an option that really catered to the market. In the end however, it didn’t happen that way.

I don’t know why anyone would want to defend MS here. All it means is you get worse games.

In my book, better games > any game company



MikeB on 03 March 2008

Absolutely agree with regard to the 360. The Wii does not really need a harddrive, it's specced similar as compared to last gen consoles (far less data reading for graphics and audio) and a lot of its appeal is (also) due to its form factor, a harddrive would make the Wii a lot bulkier.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

disolitude on 03 March 2008
Ail said:
disolitude said:
FreeTalkLive said:

"They did it with the original Xbox. I'm not sure why they decided to not require a hard drive on the 360. From what I understand they don't move many [Core/Arcade] units," added McGuire.

 It is pretty easy to figure out why they did it.  MS can sell a version with a hard drive for at least $50 more (even though it cost them more like $10) and loss less money or make more money on the higher end system.  I guess the developer was just pretending to be stupid. 

 


Same can be said for Sony and rumble shock controllers. And nintendo and their lack of wii price cut even though they are making atleast 100 bucks on the damn thing. Sometimes developers say stupd things to get noticed...

Why exactly should Nintendo cut the price of the Wii lol ?

They can't keep it in stock at the current price, the only thing a price cut would do is reduce their profit and still it would be out of stocks so it would only increase customers difficulties at finding me as it would sell out even faster.......


Fine, point taken. How about lack of network port nintendo? I had to buy a 30 dollar adapter or a 50 dollar wireless router to play online.



TheRealMafoo on 03 March 2008
disolitude said:

Fine, point taken. How about lack of network port nintendo? I had to buy a 30 dollar adapter or a 50 dollar wireless router to play online.


Price after rebate: $9.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833130044

 



disolitude on 03 March 2008

^ god damn it... WHERE WERE YOU A YEAR AGO WITH THIS INFORMATION?!?! :)