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Forums - Microsoft - Halo: MCC review thread! UPDATE: Reviews incoming - 87 metascore so far

MrChaos said:
HyrulianScrolls said:

I really don't get how a huge collection of 4 games all with a fresh coat of paint and new features, of which the lowest scoring game was an 87, only gets an 87. Especially with TLOU:R getting a 95 despite barely being any different than the original that released a year before it. I swear some of these reviewers are just way too biased against MS right now. This is the third great X1 game in a row that has been too harshly reviewed. You'd think critics would be grateful that X1 is actually delivering some great exclusives while PS4 has nothing to offer there.


Well maybe TLoU is just superior (it is) to even a collection of average shooters.Halo does not have great characters,gameplay,story or concept like TLoU.They are all enter changeable with nothing new or exciting being added outside of bigger maps.Really.Also it's your untrue opinion about exclusives when Sony's exclusives have sold better.You have two Forza games and Sunset.What other exclusives are there? Oh the other games that are on PC?


yeah, 5 books and soon 1 major TV series and 2 minor ones with no content. -.-

TLOU is a good game though, just overrated, but still good.



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HyrulianScrolls said:

You're using the argument that its popular so it must be true, which is a logical fallacy. I don't care how unpopular it is to not worship TLOU, it doesn't deserve it. Again, probably the most overrated game of all time. And it's wrecking the industry by  developers thinking that story, characters, and graphics are more important now than gameplay.

You're making the assumption that your opinion is the baseline for absolute truth in the world. I personally thought TLOU's gameplay was absolutely incredible, and the tension of some of the areas only added to that. Again though, that's simply my opinion. Just happens to be an opinion shaped by an awful lot of people ^^

Likewise, i've always immensely disliked the Metroid Prime trilogy. Doesn't mean the games aren't great, or that people that love them are wrong, they just don't fit my tastes. You should try remembering that.

Regardless, this isn't the place for discussions about TLOU. You should take this discussion to PMs or something.



Can people please shut up with this console war bullshit. My god.



Yeah, TLOU is a good game for sure. But still probably the most overrated of all time because it doesn't even deserve to scratch a "best games ever made" list let alone come in #1 like it does by most young gamers today. It just shows how the generation that was raised on COD games has far lower expectations as to what a great game is. Fun and creative gameplay doesn't matter to them much anymore.



HyrulianScrolls said:

You're using the argument that its popular so it must be true, which is a logical fallacy. I don't care how unpopular it is to not worship TLOU, it doesn't deserve it. Again, probably the most overrated game of all time. And it's wrecking the industry by  developers thinking that story, characters, and graphics are more important now than gameplay.

"I don't like it, therefore it doesn't deserve it. Oh, and it's WRECKING the industry (???)"

Speaking of logical fallacy...



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disappointing


how does a one year old rmk of a 95 game gets a solid 95, while a remaster + rmk of 4 games in one (97, 95, 94 and 87) just gets an 87?

should they just left halo 4 out of the collection to get better score, or what the fuck do they try to imply?





I don't see how a great game is overrated.Is it the greatest to most? No,but it's better than any FPS game that's for sure and it's easily the best game from last generation though U2 and Batman AC were my personal favorites.



Tachikoma said:

thats a really shitty excuse.

If you were reviewing orignal xbox/360 games today they would have scored just as well, or are you saying the merits that got these games these high scores suddenly matter less as time passes?

If a NEW xbox one game released looking like halo 1, then yes, it would have scored lower, but if a new halo game were to launch today for the original xbox, the platform limitations would play a huge part in the scoring.

It is not and it is fair.

The tech and games evoluted... just compared the first Tomb Raider in 94 with the last one in 2013... the resources and tech in 94 don't hold a finger in terms of gameplay to what we have today.

Enduro had amazing gameplay in 1980 but today with GT, Forza, pCARs you won't review Enduro neither with a 2/10.

If you review a old game with today standards it will receive lower score... you can't back to the past to review a old game.

Old games reciving 80 scores shows how good the gampley and mecanics were at it time... it is impressive.



Tachikoma said:

Halo 1 - 97
Halo 2 - 95
Halo 3 - 94
Halo 4 - 87
Halo 1-4, all upgraded, all the multiplayer maps all graphically updated andrunning at better framerates and resolutions on a much better server platform than they originally did - 87.

How does this make sense, at all? How can you take three games all over 94, a forth that got 87, strap them all together with updates, upgrades and better performance, and ship them as one complete package for the price of a single game, and still only get 87?

I don't even like xbox, and I actually don't particularly like the Halo series either, but this is bullshit.

Collections have always been treated like that. I can't think of many (any actually, but there may be one or two) major collection that's score has matched the scores of the titles making it up.

I don't personally agree with how collections are reviewed, but at least they're consistent about it. The MCC would probably have scored 90-ish on the 7th gen scale (which would have made it the highest scoring collection in years), but it seems critics are applying their new scale to collections too.



People upset over 87 need to step away from gaming a bit Imo. Also what's with the childish console war be going on here? Seriously give it up.