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Forums - Sales Discussion - Amazon US Monthly bestsellers tracking thread November - Updated 29/11 - GTAV bundle in at 17

TiagoCosta on 29 November 2014
heyjew said:

Funny to see the standalone PS4 so high because of all the people buying the consoles for kids and not letting them play GTA5, but totally cool with the Assassin's Creed games. 

That doesn't make much sense, they could get ps4 with lbp as well, that's as kiddy as it gets. 

The only way to buy the XboxOne is bundled with AC, there's no other sku out there. (terrible decision by MS)



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revben21 on 29 November 2014
thismeintiel said:
mornelithe said:
Downanime00 said:
http://blog.infoscout.co/gaming-consoles-black-friday/

I don't know if it's real or not but if it is, then it look like X1 won black friday?

I saw that, unsure of their methodology as it seems they don't count online sales in their data (given the lack of Amazon), the 53% to 31% just seems awfully far apart to include online.  But, who knows, maybe Microsoft knocked this one out of the park.

Their methodology seems very flawed.  For proof, just look at their findings for 2013.  The PS4 was greatly held back because of lack of shipments.  In fact, given the PR that it sold 1M the week before, we know it only sold ~100K on BF.  According to them, the PS3 only sold ~100K that week, too.  The PS3 sold ~420K for the whole of Nov.  Are we really going to believe that the PS3 only sold 1/4th of its Nov sales on Black Friday week?  Highly doubt it.  Most likely it sold 1/2 of its sales that week.

you know black friday is one day, right, so it sold 1/4 of those numbers on one day. That seems reasonable. 320/4weeks is 80k. 80k+100k=180k. That makes sense.



thismeintiel on 29 November 2014
revben21 said:
thismeintiel said:
mornelithe said:

I saw that, unsure of their methodology as it seems they don't count online sales in their data (given the lack of Amazon), the 53% to 31% just seems awfully far apart to include online.  But, who knows, maybe Microsoft knocked this one out of the park.

Their methodology seems very flawed.  For proof, just look at their findings for 2013.  The PS4 was greatly held back because of lack of shipments.  In fact, given the PR that it sold 1M the week before, we know it only sold ~100K on BF.  According to them, the PS3 only sold ~100K that week, too.  The PS3 sold ~420K for the whole of Nov.  Are we really going to believe that the PS3 only sold 1/4th of its Nov sales on Black Friday week?  Highly doubt it.  Most likely it sold 1/2 of its sales that week.

you know black friday is one day, right, so it sold 1/4 of those numbers on one day. That seems reasonable. 320/4weeks is 80k. 80k+100k=180k. That makes sense.

Sorry, but no, Black Friday is going to always greatly outdo every week in Nov.  And Thurs night-Friday is going to greatly outdo any day that week.  For example, in 2012 the PS3 sold ~710K in Nov.  On BF week, 525K.  That's ~74% for one week, and most likely ~65%-70% for the 1-1 1/2 days.  So, sorry, their methodology is poor.



 

revben21 on 29 November 2014
thismeintiel said:
revben21 said:
thismeintiel said:
mornelithe said:

I saw that, unsure of their methodology as it seems they don't count online sales in their data (given the lack of Amazon), the 53% to 31% just seems awfully far apart to include online.  But, who knows, maybe Microsoft knocked this one out of the park.

Their methodology seems very flawed.  For proof, just look at their findings for 2013.  The PS4 was greatly held back because of lack of shipments.  In fact, given the PR that it sold 1M the week before, we know it only sold ~100K on BF.  According to them, the PS3 only sold ~100K that week, too.  The PS3 sold ~420K for the whole of Nov.  Are we really going to believe that the PS3 only sold 1/4th of its Nov sales on Black Friday week?  Highly doubt it.  Most likely it sold 1/2 of its sales that week.

you know black friday is one day, right, so it sold 1/4 of those numbers on one day. That seems reasonable. 320/4weeks is 80k. 80k+100k=180k. That makes sense.

Sorry, but no, Black Friday is going to always greatly outdo every week in Nov.  And Thurs night-Friday is going to greatly outdo any day that week.  For example, in 2012 the PS3 sold ~710K in Nov.  On BF week, 525K.  That's ~74% for one week, and most likely ~65%-70% for the 1-1 1/2 days.  So, sorry, their methodology is poor.

last ps4 sold 1 million in a day in NA, so about 900k in usa in a day, but only sold 1.2k in the other 15 days including black friday, so about 100k on black friday. Do you see my point, black friday sale is nothing without context!



Aura7541 on 29 November 2014
revben21 said:
thismeintiel said:

Sorry, but no, Black Friday is going to always greatly outdo every week in Nov.  And Thurs night-Friday is going to greatly outdo any day that week.  For example, in 2012 the PS3 sold ~710K in Nov.  On BF week, 525K.  That's ~74% for one week, and most likely ~65%-70% for the 1-1 1/2 days.  So, sorry, their methodology is poor.

last ps4 sold 1 million in a day in NA, so about 900k in usa in a day, but only sold 1.2k in the other 15 days including black friday, so about 100k on black friday. Do you see my point, black friday sale is nothing without context!

Context??? You forgot that last year was the PS4's launch year. It didn't sell well during Black Friday because it was severely supply constrained. Had Sony been able to ship more PS4s to the US, the PS4 would have sold a lot more. thismeintiel is right, your methodology is indeed very poor...



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Angelv577 on 29 November 2014

xbox one now #1 again, I guess the 499 is hurting the sales.



Jimbo1337 on 29 November 2014

Amazon Hourly:

XB1 AC bundle: #1 (up 1)
PS4 GTA bundle: #2 (down 1)
PS4 LBP3 bundle: #41 (down 2)
PS4 Destiny bundle: #55 (down 2)
PS4 console: #74 (up 4??)



Kerotan on 29 November 2014
Angelv577 said:
xbox one now #1 again, I guess the 499 is hurting the sales.


it went out of stock hours ago and the hourly updates are behind by 5-6 hours. This is prob the last hour it was in stock. It will be gone in the next update or two. 



DD_Bwest on 29 November 2014

standalone slowly moving back up lol



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Angelv577 on 29 November 2014
Kerotan said:
Angelv577 said:
xbox one now #1 again, I guess the 499 is hurting the sales.


it went out of stock hours ago and the hourly updates are behind by 5-6 hours. This is prob the last hour it was in stock. It will be gone in the next update or two. 

So ps4 is going down again until next round?