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I have a hard time believing that needing more than 50GB of disc space is a sign of anything but general ineptitude, inefficiency, and excessiveness. Just what does Kojima intend to put on this game disc that requires so much space? I suppose I can hope that this is all just a misunderstanding, and that Kojima didn't actually mean to imply that MGS4 is so bloated in size that it needs to consume 10 times the space of any other game just to meet his standards.



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Lone_Canis_Lupus said:
DragonLord said:
He wants higher quality by not compressing the crap out of everything like they do on dvd.

Hmm...I've heard of this doubling thing and all that because of access times on Blu-ray but it doesn't make any sense to me. The transfer rate for the disc drive will still be the same...so doubling up shouldn't do anything, right?

EDIT: That was directed at DarkNight....why aren't my quotes working correctly?


 You're pushing the wrong quote button, that's why.



That's pretty crazy.




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FJ-Warez said:
DragonLord said:
He wants higher quality by not compressing the crap out of everything like they do on dvd.

 Is kinda of interesting, I remember some interview where he said something like "the game can fit perfectly on a dvd, but Sony is requesting too much content in 1080 (probably talking about pre-render videos)"... so, maybe this is just PR, or there is too much video at 1080 and too little game (Like others MGS...)


Reading a boxer blog or speaking with some random xbox user about MGS4 file size doesnt qualify as "I remember some interview where Kojima-san said ..." .He never said anything like that .

Sky Render said:
I have a hard time believing that needing more than 50GB of disc space is a sign of anything but general ineptitude, inefficiency, and excessiveness. Just what does Kojima intend to put on this game disc that requires so much space? I suppose I can hope that this is all just a misunderstanding, and that Kojima didn't actually mean to imply that MGS4 is so bloated in size that it needs to consume 10 times the space of any other game just to meet his standards.

 Bingo.  Its easy for anyone to fill things up as much as possible, the question is always whats practical.  I mean, whats the point of people using uncompressed bitmaps as opposed to png or gifs for the majority of applications?  Exactly the same thing here.   More space doesn't mean you have to fill it up unnecessarily.



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izaaz101 said:
You have to use the quote button underneath a post.

From what I remember hearing about the blu-ray discs is that there are different access times from the inner edge of the disc to the outer edge of the disc. Doubling it up allows a quicker seek time. Someone who knows more about will be better equipped to explain it to you, than I am.

 Oh...I feel stupid now...I'm used to the quote button being above on other forums. Oh well. Anyway, yes, that is true. It's because the further you get from the inner, there are more pits and bumps(0s and 1s) to read...I guess making the transfer rate faster as you get to the outer. Nevermind, it makes sense now. But I doubt it's because the transfer rate is slow, more of the fact that files are bigger because of the larger data needed for HD gaming.

 I also doubt Kojima would do something as cheap as doubling up on the data...that doesn't sound like him.



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darconi said:
Sky Render said:
I have a hard time believing that needing more than 50GB of disc space is a sign of anything but general ineptitude, inefficiency, and excessiveness. Just what does Kojima intend to put on this game disc that requires so much space? I suppose I can hope that this is all just a misunderstanding, and that Kojima didn't actually mean to imply that MGS4 is so bloated in size that it needs to consume 10 times the space of any other game just to meet his standards.

Bingo. Its easy for anyone to fill things up as much as possible, the question is always whats practical. I mean, whats the point of people using uncompressed bitmaps as opposed to png or gifs for the majority of applications? Exactly the same thing here. More space doesn't mean you have to fill it up unnecessarily.


 If you have the space for it, why not do it? Do you want them to use 10GB of the disc and give you a bunch of compressed crap, or do you want uncompressed beauty?

P.S. GIF's look horrible.



Seriously that's ridiculous, 50Gb, come on.



Wow this is a big game.



They didnt even compress the game. It could easily fit on a Blu-ray if they compressed the thing.



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