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When the day comes that MGS4, FFXIII, GT5 and GOW3 have come and gone on the PS3, I will be happy, because then and finally then the PS3 fanboys will be forced to acknowledge the PS3's performance in Hardware and Software sales for what they are instead of ignoring the present in favor of turning their gaze towards the promise of the future. Though who am I kidding? Even when things were at their worst for the PS3, the Sony fanboys were talking about how things would turn around when the PS4 came out. There will be no end to the excuses, no end to the promises.

The 360 has taken its predicessor's measley stake in the market and expanded it with an even more fantastic online community and the best game library of this generation with games, that despite those being put on the Ps3 as well, typically look better on it.

The Wii has taken a company on an 18 year downward spiral and turned things around with what looks to be their most successful console ever along side their most successful handheld ever. While things are hard going for third party support, a generation of rebuilding is more than understandable given Nintendo's lost investments of the past.

The PS3 on the other hand took the legacy of the two best selling consoles in history (PS & PS2) and squandered it with its extravagance as an expensive luxury item with sloppy hardware architecture, even more sloppy copy-cat motion controls, a mediocre successor to the mediocre Eye Toy and a Johny-Come-Lately Online Community which is sure to please those desperate enough to feel the PS3 needs it. In addition to losing exclusivity to franchises like Devil May Cry, Grand Theft Auto and Monster Hunter, the PS3 now is taking up the trend of forcing you to download large chunks of data onto the harddrive simply just to play the game, don't delete them to make more space or else your save data will be gone too. And let's not forget Rumble which was last gen until they decided to put it back into the Ps3 controllers, just that you have to buy them seperately. And who wants to play PS2 games with upscaled graphics? Backwards compatibility is for chumps too.

Now that the PS3 is just barely outselling the 360, everyone is rejoicing as if blind to the fact its only being bought as a Blu-Ray player or that during the PS2's prime the very thought that Sony fanboys would be rejoicing at a Sony console outselling the Microsoft upstart by such a narrow margin sometime in the future.



The Ghost of RubangB said:
1: Stop making shooters. Please. You're not Valve or Free Radical.
2: Stop trying to force photo-realism down my throat until you can get out of the uncanny valley. Work on style and presentation instead of just pixels and bloom.
3: Try something weird and new, and hope we like it.

You'll cut costs way more than you cut revenue, and thus increase profit.
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4D Gamer III said:
When the day comes that MGS4, FFXIII, GT5 and GOW3 have come and gone on the PS3, I will be happy, because then and finally then the PS3 fanboys will be forced to acknowledge the PS3's performance in Hardware and Software sales for what they are instead of ignoring the present in favor of turning their gaze towards the promise of the future. Though who am I kidding? Even when things were at their worst for the PS3, the Sony fanboys were talking about how things would turn around when the PS4 came out. There will be no end to the excuses, no end to the promises.

The 360 has taken its predicessor's measley stake in the market and expanded it with an even more fantastic online community and the best game library of this generation with games, that despite those being put on the Ps3 as well, typically look better on it.

The Wii has taken a company on an 18 year downward spiral and turned things around with what looks to be their most successful console ever along side their most successful handheld ever. While things are hard going for third party support, a generation of rebuilding is more than understandable given Nintendo's lost investments of the past.

The PS3 on the other hand took the legacy of the two best selling consoles in history (PS & PS2) and squandered it with its extravagance as an expensive luxury item with sloppy hardware architecture, even more sloppy copy-cat motion controls, a mediocre successor to the mediocre Eye Toy and a Johny-Come-Lately Online Community which is sure to please those desperate enough to feel the PS3 needs it. In addition to losing exclusivity to franchises like Devil May Cry, Grand Theft Auto and Monster Hunter, the PS3 now is taking up the trend of forcing you to download large chunks of data onto the harddrive simply just to play the game, don't delete them to make more space or else your save data will be gone too. And let's not forget Rumble which was last gen until they decided to put it back into the Ps3 controllers, just that you have to buy them seperately. And who wants to play PS2 games with upscaled graphics? Backwards compatibility is for chumps too.

Now that the PS3 is just barely outselling the 360, everyone is rejoicing as if blind to the fact its only being bought as a Blu-Ray player or that during the PS2's prime the very thought that Sony fanboys would be rejoicing at a Sony console outselling the Microsoft upstart by such a narrow margin sometime in the future.

 Emmm, the attach rate for new games sold is better for the PS3 than the 360, so the whole bought only for the Blu-ray argument can finally be put to sleep...



PSN ID: T_Gears

End of 2009 ltd sales:

Wii = 67-68m

X360 = 38-39m

PS3 = 34-35m

Prediction: The PS3 will surpass the 360 on weekly sales after it drops to $299 on all regular weeks (no big releases).

taxman said:
4D Gamer III said:
When the day comes that MGS4, FFXIII, GT5 and GOW3 have come and gone on the PS3, I will be happy, because then and finally then the PS3 fanboys will be forced to acknowledge the PS3's performance in Hardware and Software sales for what they are instead of ignoring the present in favor of turning their gaze towards the promise of the future. Though who am I kidding? Even when things were at their worst for the PS3, the Sony fanboys were talking about how things would turn around when the PS4 came out. There will be no end to the excuses, no end to the promises.

The 360 has taken its predicessor's measley stake in the market and expanded it with an even more fantastic online community and the best game library of this generation with games, that despite those being put on the Ps3 as well, typically look better on it.

The Wii has taken a company on an 18 year downward spiral and turned things around with what looks to be their most successful console ever along side their most successful handheld ever. While things are hard going for third party support, a generation of rebuilding is more than understandable given Nintendo's lost investments of the past.

The PS3 on the other hand took the legacy of the two best selling consoles in history (PS & PS2) and squandered it with its extravagance as an expensive luxury item with sloppy hardware architecture, even more sloppy copy-cat motion controls, a mediocre successor to the mediocre Eye Toy and a Johny-Come-Lately Online Community which is sure to please those desperate enough to feel the PS3 needs it. In addition to losing exclusivity to franchises like Devil May Cry, Grand Theft Auto and Monster Hunter, the PS3 now is taking up the trend of forcing you to download large chunks of data onto the harddrive simply just to play the game, don't delete them to make more space or else your save data will be gone too. And let's not forget Rumble which was last gen until they decided to put it back into the Ps3 controllers, just that you have to buy them seperately. And who wants to play PS2 games with upscaled graphics? Backwards compatibility is for chumps too.

Now that the PS3 is just barely outselling the 360, everyone is rejoicing as if blind to the fact its only being bought as a Blu-Ray player or that during the PS2's prime the very thought that Sony fanboys would be rejoicing at a Sony console outselling the Microsoft upstart by such a narrow margin sometime in the future.

 Emmm, the attach rate for new games sold is better for the PS3 than the 360, so the whole bought only for the Blu-ray argument can finally be put to sleep...


Attach rate isn't indicative of anything if you assume there is a core base of adopters that account for the majority of software sales on any platform.

It's only a matter of time before people start arguing the PS3's software is being undertracked.



The Ghost of RubangB said:
1: Stop making shooters. Please. You're not Valve or Free Radical.
2: Stop trying to force photo-realism down my throat until you can get out of the uncanny valley. Work on style and presentation instead of just pixels and bloom.
3: Try something weird and new, and hope we like it.

You'll cut costs way more than you cut revenue, and thus increase profit.
Around the Network
4D Gamer III said:
When the day comes that MGS4, FFXIII, GT5 and GOW3 have come and gone on the PS3, I will be happy, because then and finally then the PS3 fanboys will be forced to acknowledge the PS3's performance in Hardware and Software sales for what they are instead of ignoring the present in favor of turning their gaze towards the promise of the future. Though who am I kidding? Even when things were at their worst for the PS3, the Sony fanboys were talking about how things would turn around when the PS4 came out. There will be no end to the excuses, no end to the promises.

The 360 has taken its predicessor's measley stake in the market and expanded it with an even more fantastic online community and the best game library of this generation with games, that despite those being put on the Ps3 as well, typically look better on it.

The Wii has taken a company on an 18 year downward spiral and turned things around with what looks to be their most successful console ever along side their most successful handheld ever. While things are hard going for third party support, a generation of rebuilding is more than understandable given Nintendo's lost investments of the past.

The PS3 on the other hand took the legacy of the two best selling consoles in history (PS & PS2) and squandered it with its extravagance as an expensive luxury item with sloppy hardware architecture, even more sloppy copy-cat motion controls, a mediocre successor to the mediocre Eye Toy and a Johny-Come-Lately Online Community which is sure to please those desperate enough to feel the PS3 needs it. In addition to losing exclusivity to franchises like Devil May Cry, Grand Theft Auto and Monster Hunter, the PS3 now is taking up the trend of forcing you to download large chunks of data onto the harddrive simply just to play the game, don't delete them to make more space or else your save data will be gone too. And let's not forget Rumble which was last gen until they decided to put it back into the Ps3 controllers, just that you have to buy them seperately. And who wants to play PS2 games with upscaled graphics? Backwards compatibility is for chumps too.

Now that the PS3 is just barely outselling the 360, everyone is rejoicing as if blind to the fact its only being bought as a Blu-Ray player or that during the PS2's prime the very thought that Sony fanboys would be rejoicing at a Sony console outselling the Microsoft upstart by such a narrow margin sometime in the future.

 So I guess Nintendo fumbled the ball after the SNES just like Sony did after the PS2.  Yet the Wii still doesn't have the third party suppot Wii owners are looking for while the PS3 does.  The PS3's prospects keep looking better and better as well with much better sales this year than last and a strong lineup to maintain that pace throughout the year, not to mention the Blu-Ray victory.



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CAN YOU PEOPLE PLEASE STOP TALKING SO MUCH CRAP ABOUT CONSOLES ON THIS THREAD!!!....................THANKS



^LOLZ. PS3 Sux.^ Just to annoy you.



pfft...the game looks retarded anyways, so whatever.



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Lol, that was a real mature comment.