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prinz_valium said:
hacked games, soon?
good old ps3 times


It was only a matter of time all consoles get hacked.



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DanneSandin said:
artur-fernand said:

Well... Sounds easy, I mean, modern PCs should be able to play 15 year-old games without a problem, but then you consider that the games were made with another hardware in mind. So you have to make the PC and game "think" it's actually a completely different hardware. And that requires extensive knowledge of how the original hardware even works - which is the reason why there isn't any Xbox emulator, there's barely any documentation about it, despite it having a x86 architecture (which, no, doesn't make it easier to emulate, that's a common misconception. It makes it harder if anything).

And the Saturn, for example, was notoriously difficult to program for, so imagine emulating that. And the N64 also had some weird crap behind the hood and some devs took advantage of unorthodox methods to run their games, making everything much harder... it's technical and complicated, and honestly, I too don't get it that well.

damn, sounds complicated... Well, you understand it well enough to explain it to me in a fashion so that I get it - at a very basic level ;) that's always something I guess =)

If I understand the process correctly, it's kind of like language translation. Lets say the PC speaks English, while the PS4 speaks Chinese.

A port of a PS4 game can easily be played on PC because it has already been translated to each respective language, there is a version in English that the PC can read, and a version in Chinese that the PS4 can read.

Emulating a PS4 game on PC hardware is way more intensive than playing a port because the hardware is having to translate from Chinese to English as you are playing the game.



HigHurtenflurst said:

If I understand the process correctly, it's kind of like language translation. Lets say the PC speaks English, while the PS4 speaks Chinese.

A port of a PS4 game can easily be played on PC because it has already been translated to each respective language, there is a version in English that the PC can read, and a version in Chinese that the PS4 can read.

Emulating a PS4 game on PC hardware is way more intensive than playing a port because the hardware is having to translate from Chinese to English as you are playing the game.

Yeah I think that's a pretty good metaphor =)



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DanneSandin said:
artur-fernand said:


That's obviously the best solution. PC can already emulate GC/Wii/PS2 perfectly with just a few minor issues. Though there are people that just don't like gaming on PC (even with a controller) for some reason, and would rather have one console to rule them all.

And no, a PC can't play PS4 games, and won't be able to do it for at least 10 more years, and that's being extremely optmistic. PS360 just took the first steps, a full 8-9 years after their releases. Hell, the original Xbox doesn't have a working emulator yet, and emulating Saturn/N64 is still tricky to this day (Rogue Squadron is unplayable on a regular emulator, for example. You need a pretty powerful PC to run it).

Damn, what makes those consoles so damn hard to hack/emulate?


It depends. Xbox was hard to "emulate" because you had to put a lot of effort to build a complete API wrapper translating Xbox commands to PC pendants. The architecture was quite similar that you didn't need a powerful PC to emulate, though.

Saturn emulation is very good nowadays, SSF is one of the best emulators ever made. N64 offered custom hardware hacks (so to say) but either way, no emulation will ever be perfect.



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curl-6 said:

Don't get too excited; I hate to spoil the fun but this will probably be swiftly patched and it'll be back to square one, sadly.

Most of pirates never update the system they have their own update for the pirated firmware. The same can be explaned with pirated PS3 .Blame the digital download, PS3 pirated by using digital sofware and external Hardisk. 

If Sony can limit the system by not allowing external Hardisk to put the sofware in, Hacker will find some difficulty to utilize the input for the software, because they will not force the way through internal hardisk and that because it will  damage  the harddisk.