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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=916426

Certainly adds more fuel to the Fusion fire, definitely looks like this is the direction Nintendo is going in, specifically with the "Low power and SoC design experience would be a plus. " part. 

SoC = "system on chip" for those who don't know. 

I think this hints heavily towards a mobile (smartphone/tablet power envelope) like Nintendo chipset. Though I suspect they are hiring this position to assist with work they have already got going on in Japan (this position is for Redmond). 

Also NeoGaf posters point out that AMD has apparently scored a contract deal to make a ARM-based design for two vendors in 2016, but they can't say who those vendors are. Could be Nintendo. 



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I'm quite sceptical about the Fusion rumour. It would end just like portables are today: underpowered compared to home consoles. There isn't a way to do better than this since you need to be conscious about power consumption and that isn't a technical problem, it's physics laws. And having a dock with extra processing power as some suggested would just lead to inefficient designs like the Genesis add-ons. In the end, they just had less power than a Saturn or PS1 and were more expensive (and way harder to program. No one, I mean, no one, wants to program a game to a distributed system, even worse because it isn't symmetrical).

I think that if it's true, it's just the development stages for their next portables. It could be a home console too, but then I think they would say APU instead of SoC. We can't call a date for it since development begins pretty early (Cerny started working on the PS4 in 2008).



torok said:
I'm quite sceptical about the Fusion rumour. It would end just like portables are today: underpowered compared to home consoles. There isn't a way to do better than this since you need to be conscious about power consumption and that isn't a technical problem, it's physics laws. And having a dock with extra processing power as some suggested would just lead to inefficient designs like the Genesis add-ons. In the end, they just had less power than a Saturn or PS1 and were more expensive (and way harder to program. No one, I mean, no one, wants to program a game to a distributed system, even worse because it isn't symmetrical).

I think that if it's true, it's just the development stages for their next portables. It could be a home console too, but then I think they would say APU instead of SoC. We can't call a date for it since development begins pretty early (Cerny started working on the PS4 in 2008).


I don't think this marks the beginning of development, I suspect that's been ongoing for more than a year. They just need more staff for it and want a Western expert. The job listing just kind of gives a hint as to the direction that they're looking at. 

To be honest too, I don't think Nintendo has a ton of interest in graphics far beyond Wii U level. If they can get a handheld with that level of power (possibly with spiffier modern lighting/shader effects) and a home variant of that which runs at 1080p with no fuss, I think Nintendo will be happy with that. 



Soundwave said:
 


I don't think this marks the beginning of development, I suspect that's been ongoing for more than a year. They just need more staff for it and want a Western expert. The job listing just kind of gives a hint as to the direction that they're looking at. 

To be honest too, I don't think Nintendo has a ton of interest in graphics far beyond Wii U level. If they can get a handheld with that level of power (possibly with spiffier modern lighting/shader effects) and a home variant of that which runs at 1080p with no fuss, I think Nintendo will be happy with that. 


Yes, at this point they are very much into it. The work on a 3DS sucessor probably started in 2013 and in 2014 for the next home console. Putting a handheld with a similar level of power of the Wii U in some years isn't impossible since Vita is little weaker than a PS3. A handheld with PS4 like power would probably be possible in 2020-2022, but one with Wii U power would be possible much earlier. It would be more like a Vita/PS TV thing, only with the difference that the home variant would have a little extra power to render natively at 1080p instead of upscaling.

Edit: I'm surprised no one is commenting here. That's really hot news for today and people are discussing other stuff that is way less relevant for the industry.



No-one's commenting because this is quite literally yesterday's news (or the day before).

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=192075&page=1



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This is a duplithread, that's why no one is posting.

OT, I don't think anything about this points to fusion. Wii U is a "low power" system, and this SOC is most likely for a future handheld which is also likely their nearest project to production.