your op was alluding to fanboy war. You even allude to parity clause. Which exists but has never been about visuals. The parity clause is about release times nothing more. Using parity to bolster a claim that ubisoft is lying and your tech site link gains more traction. Gpgpu has all of limitations. And you fail to mention infamous ss already using it.

The op is nothing more than Ps4 vs xbox one. And something with far more potential in 4 years time in cloud computation isn't even considered. So my point about product proof is completely valid. We had this last gen with the cell processor and before that with xbox hdd and far more power over ps2. And every time the end result is negligable. If the op was just about gpgpu and ps4 with no attempt at trying to show how its vastly superior to xbox one then you wouldn't have people ripping it apart.

I maintain infamous looks great, but so does horizon 2. So does ac unity. And ac unity arguably does alot more than infamous. So I fail to see how asking for product proof is derailing the thread. Numbers mean nothing if the product sees no gain.

You mean the PC build they showed earlier with those hundreds of NPC at 1080p? It was confirmed to run on PC.

Because the recent XB1 builds they showed was a very different story. Only decades of NPC with mediocre AI (not better than Infamous I can assure you), running at 900p ~20fps with a poor blurry AA solution. 

I was hesitant about sucker Punch cause i never got a post mortem analysis till today (i managed to get a PDF from Sucker Punch) And you're right ;)

Just because Infamous: SS is using GPGPU doesn't mean it is using it fully. Considering that it was released only a few months after the PS4 launch, Sucker Punch merely scratched the surface of what GPGPU compute can do. Your comparison of Infamous: SS to Forza Horizon 2 is very baffling as they are very two different games. Whether AC: Unity does more than Infamous: SS, well duh! This game will be out close to the PS4's 1st anniversay and Ubisoft has already released AC IV: Black Flag and Watch Dogs. However, it has been shown that Ubisoft has been talking from their bum and it remains to be seen how much more AC: Unity does in comparison to Infamous: SS. You should know better than that and please stop derailing the thread.

No, you are wrong.
The GPU is only better for parallel tasks. But not all tasks can be parallelized that easily.
You can´t use the GPU for full-logical tasks. AI-logic for example can´t be processed on the GPU.
The GPU is good for calculating a lot of the same stuff, for example 1000.000 pixel-calculations, 100.000 particle simulations and the likes.

By your logic, you wouldn´t need CPU´s anymore, just take 2 GPUs and be done.
You are also wrong about saying the X1 can´t do GPGPU, because it can - the PS4 is just better at it.

You can offload much more of the CPU-heavy stuff on the cloud than you can on the GPU.
Offloading CPU-tasks to the cloud makes in every aspect more sense (if bandwidth and cloud-computing technology isn´t a bottleneckt - that is).

I love that phrase "your logic".

"GPU's are alot faster than CPU's their is just less specialized stuff the GPU can do." is what I said "The GPU is only better for parallel tasks. But not all tasks can be parallelized that easily.

You can´t use the GPU for full-logical tasks." its the exact same thing only in more detail.

"You are also wrong about saying the X1 can´t do GPGPU, because it can - the PS4 is just better at it." I never even mentioned the X1 or its GPGPU capabilities, how am I wrong about saying something I never said?

I said "limitations of GPU far exceed the limitations of cloud" not that GPU was better at CPU heavy load then Cloud was.

Lastly, the benefit of CPU offload its more advantageous on the server side not the machine side, without considering the efficiency of the machine to offload which is mainly software.

Its funny how people deliberatly misinterpret statements just so they can counter it. FYI, its not my logic, its yours.

I hate when people use GPGPU as some sort of magical fix-all solution for bottlenecks.

I'd talk about it but why not just go listen to the most recent bombcast?

Technically, the best kinda stuff to offload to the cloud in you plan on using the cloud to compliment hardware in the living room are the excat kinda CPU tasks that GPU compute will excel at. The only benefit you have offloading to the cloud is basically that it frees up your GPU for resources that only the GPU can do.  But if think about it, it really only means that you can do more off CPU based stuff cause you would simply combine the two. Cloud + GPU compute.

And I don't know where you get this impression that the PS4 somehow cannot do cloud computing. There isn't a single hardware component in either the PS4/Xb1 that makes one better at cloud computing than the other. as long as you can plug an ethernet cable into the box, you are good to go.

On further examination, what do you think is more code heavy. Running part of a games physics on the cloud and colecting the completed calculations and adding it back a game, or running an entire game off the cloud and? Why I ask is that cause you seem not to realize that as far as cloud processing or gaming related features are concerned, the PS4/sony is actually currently ahead of MS. You have heard of PSnow right? And in a matter of weeks you wil be able to play any game a friend has on their PS4 from your PS4 over the internet. Thats all cloud computing in case you didn't know. In the latter case your friends console is just the server.

But cloud computing/gaming is a long ways off.

I suppose it's related so for how long can developers afford to priorities the XB1? In every generation, gamers have always come to expect that 2nd, 3rd ... 4th generation games improve over their previous iteration. With the gap growing wider and the the PS4 becoming the de-facto gaming console, how are developers going to justify the meagre improvements from one generation of games to the next? At some point those developers who ARE using the PS4 as their main focus are going to start embarrassing those who continue to aim for the lowest common denominator. In other words I see this is a temporary problem and not one shared across the industry even at this early juncture.

Theres no derail. Just because someone sees through something and it doesnt fit tour agenda. Ax unity is multiplatform. Sucker punch had far more time with ps4 than the unity team. Infamous had 25 Boca max onscreen. The op asked for Xbox one vs ps4.