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So what was The_Sony_Girl's reason for dropping?



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Carl2291 said:


It was rhetorical, but thanks


I was hoping you were serious. I personally don't like the "the first day sucks, who cares" attitude. I caught Sparks last game on his first day attitude, and he ended up lynched. I consider bad first day attitudes to be poor town play at best, a scum tell at worst.

So I don't remember reading a lot of opinions from you in here. What do you think about some of the exchanges? Like Nickles and Noctis, or Cone and WhiteEagle, for instance? Or the bit with Eric? You've barely said anything so far.



HylianSwordsman said:
Okay I'm back. Nickles, could you get back to the notes? They were really interesting.

Though I must say Nickles, don't be overconfident. Remember, last game you tunneled Carl the whole time. You technically didn't catch scum yourself, you just set the trap that caught them. It was prof that caught them all. I'm not trying to discredit you, as your gambit paid off beautifully, but it means your gambits are good, not necessarily your investigative skills. And the game before that was not a perfect victory thanks to you, that's way overstepping it. That was town's failure, not our victory, and you should know that. I'm all for putting fear into the hearts of scum, but boasting things that anyone who watched the last two games knows is false isn't the way to do that. It's a way to make the mafia not take you seriously. Remember when we won, prof's overconfidence played a huge part in it? I see you heading down that path right now.

I don't doubt that, supposing you're town, you're a great asset to us even if you're vanilla, but you'll make scum fear you not by boasting, but by being active and having a good head on your shoulders. Which is what you already are doing, so keep it up! I'm sure scum already fears you, but you'll ruin that if you keep this up.

Sorry, end rant. We actually got close last time, and there's no nuclear powered serial killer this time, so I don't want to screw this up.

Right now I'm trying to decide what to think about radish. Did he really think padib was that good of a vote? I mean I could see some people jumping on it, but Mr. "I vote no-lynch even when we have 5 days to catch the SK or we all die" seems like the least likely to jump on it. It's not enough to go on yet, but I'm keeping it in mind.

Cone, I appreciate that you're considering lots of angles, but I don't appreciate that you call out Nickle's behavior in one sentence and then saying it's a good idea the next. Sure an investigation into Noctis might be good, but if you think Nickles is handling it wrong, say so, and then say how you think it should be done. I agree it's going in circles, so I'm going to try my hand at it now.

There he is! :D Ouch baby you hurt so good >.<. Technically Theprof followed a map we(you and I) gave him and had help from trucks and the rest of town. You played a big role in it Day 1. You also had a large role in the first game, you successfully fooled town all game despite some slips. I did tunnel carl but thanks to you I stopped. I was wrong about him being mafia or another party but I was right about him hiding something serious and being paranoid because of it.

Would you say I am a fan of gambits? I did enjoy some of my past ones but new ones are always tricky to come up with. been spending a lot of today trying to think of some while rereading everyone.

I want you to be careful about how you respond to this next part.

You say me being over confident is a weakness I disagree. It can be a strength if used correctly.  Remember that one game where we had discussion on the topic? Do you remember what we'd do to address over-confidence or pride? Do you see any behavior like that now? If not perhaps it might be good to keep an eye out for it. Just something to consider, there is always the chance I made a miscalculation.

Anyways I am feeling quite good about you at this point. I am thinking town. To be honest I was little unsure with your first post http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6722291 Mostly because I didn't quite agree with your assessment on cone and you nearly gave clyde a free pass for making the same kind of slip you made our first game and you made a point of him to not panic. IMO if he is mafia he should panic. With this post and others after it tho I am feeling confident that you are town and I am glad you are here.

As far as Noctis goes with his non-activity he is as good a place to start as any. I do not want to tunnel him so I am glad you and others are here. My issued again are the lurking and when he said(paraphrasing)" I checked in and posted" that has been rattling around in my head all day and has been sticking out like a sore thumb. Why the redundancy if he was talking about a single post? I get that he is from the Philippines and english probably isn't his first language but reading his posts he seems to have a strong grasp on it. I think his defense of it is BS and he keeps repeating it as if doing so will suddenly make it make sense and not be redundant. He didn't check in AND make a post all he did at that point was check in. It would be different had he said " I made a post where I checked in" but he didn't he said he checked in AND posted, making a distinction between the two. I believe it is a real slip. I appreciate yours and everyone's input on it and I do think he should be pushed on it.

I have been here for a few hours as you pointed out in another post. I have been agonizing of my notes and rereading everything. Especially your posts because I want to make sure I can trust you, and I want to make sure you are using good logic and that it's not just confirmation bias on my part because I want you to be town. I've taken what you've said to me seriously so I am going over everything again and trying to not tunnel anyone and make sure I consider everything I can. Up next will be Impertinence and I would appreciate your input on that as well. 



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Clyde32 said:
So what was The_Sony_Girl's reason for dropping?


Xander and Sony are so close they may as well be the same person. Which creates an unfair and unplanned for advantage in mafia so I assume Theprof and trucks removed them from the game.



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HylianSwordsman said:

I was hoping you were serious. I personally don't like the "the first day sucks, who cares" attitude. I caught Sparks last game on his first day attitude, and he ended up lynched. I consider bad first day attitudes to be poor town play at best, a scum tell at worst.

So I don't remember reading a lot of opinions from you in here. What do you think about some of the exchanges? Like Nickles and Noctis, or Cone and WhiteEagle, for instance? Or the bit with Eric? You've barely said anything so far.


I think Nickles is tunneling Noctis, for very little reason at all (which likely comes down to Nickles inexperience with VGC Mafia). As you already said here, it stinks of the same thing that happened with Nickles and me in the last game, where we were both Town. Hanging on to one small, petty detail in a post and dragging it out into something way bigger than what it actually is.

I have no read on Noctis, I have a Town read on Nickles because it is very samey to what he did last time out.

WhiteEagle fishing for the Doc role so early is bad play on either side of the fence. Scum or Town. Considering his apparent inexperience it could be a Townie not realising what he is doing. On the other hand, it could be Scum with no friendly contact to advise him on what to do or say (at least, no friendly contact at the time).

I have Town reads on Eric, mainly because of his activity levels compared to last game where he was non-existant. (Which yes, I do realise comes back to bite me on the arse when you consider my activity levels in both games).

The only real suspect I actually have is WhiteEagle, for obvious reasons. Even then Im not 100% sure if its just bad play or Scum play.



                            

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Edit mafia as in the game mafia not necessarily the mafia team. it would have been very unfair if one were mafia and one were town or if both were mafia and there was no day talk or even if they were both town.



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Nicklesbe said:
Clyde32 said:
So what was The_Sony_Girl's reason for dropping?


Xander and Sony are so close they may as well be the same person. Which creates an unfair and unplanned for advantage in mafia so I assume Theprof and trucks removed them from the game.


Which means they were either both mafia, or opposite from each other. And then their roles passed down to Spurge and Hylian...



Clyde32 said:
Nicklesbe said:
Clyde32 said:
So what was The_Sony_Girl's reason for dropping?


Xander and Sony are so close they may as well be the same person. Which creates an unfair and unplanned for advantage in mafia so I assume Theprof and trucks removed them from the game.


Which means they were either both mafia, or opposite from each other. And then their roles passed down to Spurge and Hylian...

I wouldn't read too much into it. Last game people suspected khan when he replaced burger. They were replaced because they are close RL and it doesn't really mean they were on the same team or opposite teams. Of course it is something to consider, but not really safe to assume.



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@Spurge in response to one of your questions...
I pushed for Cone's role so hard because , not only I was confused and did not realise that was a joke, I wanted to see if he is doctor...which would make him very safe from Town from a bit.



WhiteEaglePL said:
@Spurge in response to one of your questions...
I pushed for Cone's role so hard because , not only I was confused and did not realise that was a joke, I wanted to see if he is doctor...which would make him very safe from Town from a bit.


But would put him in danger from the mafia