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Aura7541 on 27 September 2014
Imaginedvl said:
Aura7541 said:

And yet, you don't have any evidence to back this notion. Besides, there are a bunch of 1080p monitors that can be bought for lower than $200, so I highly doubt that most people don't have a 1080p screen. Also, a 720p native resolution upscaled to 1080p resolution makes the picture more blurry. Doesn't matter how good the upscaler does. The picture will still end up much blurrier than a native 1080p pic. A 1080p resolution has 225% more pixels than a 720p resolution.

And if you think there's hardly any difference between the PS4 and X1 multiplats, then read my previous comment. The difference between the X1 to PS4 versions range from 144% to 225%. That's way too significant for there to be "hardly any difference"... -__-"

lol at this. I tought your previous comment was a joke but if you bring it back again let me respond.

You cannot possibly be serious into just laying down those res/fps and talk about it like it a very tangible way to differentiate the game experience for gamers... No, there is no 225% difference in the experience of playing Call of Duty from Xbox One to PS4... The game may be sharper/smoother on one console but talking about "225%" difference makes no sense what so ever... The game is as fun and as enjoyable on both console and it looks good and fluid on BOTH consoles...

Yes some people (esp. non Xbox One gamers...) will notice and cry about some FPS slowdown here and there but nothing like "it is 225%" less playable/enjoyable. And the majority (close to 99%) will enjoy it as much as the Playstation gamers...

Love how some people are going with specs only like it is 100% of the game experience...
114% to 225% ROFL give me a break...

You're right, there isn't a 225% difference between the X1 and PS4 versions of COD. In fact, it's greater than 225% because the color pallette in the X1 version is incredibly gross in comparison to the PS4 version.

To deny the math is to deny the objective facts. Multiplats look and run significantly better on the PS4 than on the X1. The difference between 720p and 1080p is really big. People notice it immediately. 60 fps runs significantly better than 30 fps. Those extra frames help the games run like butter and signficantly affects the gameplay. Heck, the framerate in the X1 version of Tomb Raider: DE falls below 30 fps, which is a big "no-no". A few times, it dips into the teens which is utter blegh.

Multiplats may be enjoyable on the X1, but they are MORE enjoyable on the PS4. Sometimes, X1 multiplats don't run fluidly the entire way (e.g. Tomb Raider: DE). Sometimes, the presentation looks worse on the X1 versions (e.g. color pallette on COD: Ghosts and lack of ambient occlusion in Battlefield 4). Who would not want a clearer, sharper picture? Who wouldn't want that smoother framerate? Why the heck would I purposely deprive myself of those kinds of luxuries?



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sweetoothj on 27 September 2014
Aura7541 said:
Imaginedvl said:
Aura7541 said:

And yet, you don't have any evidence to back this notion. Besides, there are a bunch of 1080p monitors that can be bought for lower than $200, so I highly doubt that most people don't have a 1080p screen. Also, a 720p native resolution upscaled to 1080p resolution makes the picture more blurry. Doesn't matter how good the upscaler does. The picture will still end up much blurrier than a native 1080p pic. A 1080p resolution has 225% more pixels than a 720p resolution.

And if you think there's hardly any difference between the PS4 and X1 multiplats, then read my previous comment. The difference between the X1 to PS4 versions range from 144% to 225%. That's way too significant for there to be "hardly any difference"... -__-"

lol at this. I tought your previous comment was a joke but if you bring it back again let me respond.

You cannot possibly be serious into just laying down those res/fps and talk about it like it a very tangible way to differentiate the game experience for gamers... No, there is no 225% difference in the experience of playing Call of Duty from Xbox One to PS4... The game may be sharper/smoother on one console but talking about "225%" difference makes no sense what so ever... The game is as fun and as enjoyable on both console and it looks good and fluid on BOTH consoles...

Yes some people (esp. non Xbox One gamers...) will notice and cry about some FPS slowdown here and there but nothing like "it is 225%" less playable/enjoyable. And the majority (close to 99%) will enjoy it as much as the Playstation gamers...

Love how some people are going with specs only like it is 100% of the game experience...
114% to 225% ROFL give me a break...

You're right, there isn't a 225% difference between the X1 and PS4 versions of COD. In fact, it's greater than 225% because the color pallette in the X1 version is incredibly gross in comparison to the PS4 version.

To deny the math is to deny the objective facts. Multiplats look and run significantly better on the PS4 than on the X1. The difference between 720p and 1080p is really big. People notice it immediately. 60 fps runs significantly better than 30 fps. Those extra frames help the games run like butter and signficantly affects the gameplay. Heck, the framerate in the X1 version of Tomb Raider: DE falls below 30 fps, which is a big "no-no" territory. A few times, it dips into the teens which is utter blegh.

Multiplats may be enjoyable on the X1, but they are MORE enjoyable on the PS4. Who doesn't want a clearer, sharper picture? Who doesn't want that smoother framerate? Why the heck would I purposely deprive myself of those kinds of luxuries?


If the quality is that much better why do all the game review sites give out the same score on both versions? Why do tech analysis like digital foundary states they're both good and they're almost the same in graphics?  If it was 2-3 times better on ps4 reviewers would've noted this. Besides, I want exclusive AAA games and PS4 has been lacking in that department. Also, I don't have to worry about XBL going down all the time like PSN.



ExplodingBlock on 27 September 2014

Please leave these threads to toast boy thank you very much!



Aura7541 on 27 September 2014
sweetoothj said:

If the quality is that much better why do all the game review sites give out the same score on both versions? Why do tech analysis like digital foundary states they're both good and they're almost the same in graphics?  If it was 2-3 times better on ps4 reviewers would've noted this. Besides, I want exclusive AAA games and PS4 has been lacking in that department. Also, I don't have to worry about XBL going down all the time like PSN.

Yeah.... that's quite a false statement there. XBL has gone down quite a few times this gen already. -_-

Reviewers give the same score because they usually rate just one version of the game and then, give that same score for the other version. Even if they do look at both versions, they look at the content of the game, not so much on the resolution. Sometimes, they do put framerate into account, but that's if there are instances of low framerate (e.g. X1 version of Tomb Raider: DE). And I don't know what you're seeing from Digital Foundary. In their analyses, the PS4 wins outright in resolution and/or framerate.

Also, think about this. If the scores between X1 and PS4 multiplats are the same, why aren't the sales the same for each version? Why is it that a lot more people buy the PS4 version than the X1 version? Wouldn't people not get the PS4 version because of PSN going down "all the time" and buy the X1 version because XBL is better? But we're seeing a lot more people buying the PS4 version. Why is it so? Maybe because the PS4 versions of multiplats are significantly better version and PSN actually doesn't go down all the time.

You say that the PS4 has been lacking in AAA games. Well that's incredibly false, too... If you have done actual research, you wouldn't have said that.



Imaginedvl on 27 September 2014
Aura7541 said:
Imaginedvl said:
Aura7541 said:

And yet, you don't have any evidence to back this notion. Besides, there are a bunch of 1080p monitors that can be bought for lower than $200, so I highly doubt that most people don't have a 1080p screen. Also, a 720p native resolution upscaled to 1080p resolution makes the picture more blurry. Doesn't matter how good the upscaler does. The picture will still end up much blurrier than a native 1080p pic. A 1080p resolution has 225% more pixels than a 720p resolution.

And if you think there's hardly any difference between the PS4 and X1 multiplats, then read my previous comment. The difference between the X1 to PS4 versions range from 144% to 225%. That's way too significant for there to be "hardly any difference"... -__-"

lol at this. I tought your previous comment was a joke but if you bring it back again let me respond.

You cannot possibly be serious into just laying down those res/fps and talk about it like it a very tangible way to differentiate the game experience for gamers... No, there is no 225% difference in the experience of playing Call of Duty from Xbox One to PS4... The game may be sharper/smoother on one console but talking about "225%" difference makes no sense what so ever... The game is as fun and as enjoyable on both console and it looks good and fluid on BOTH consoles...

Yes some people (esp. non Xbox One gamers...) will notice and cry about some FPS slowdown here and there but nothing like "it is 225%" less playable/enjoyable. And the majority (close to 99%) will enjoy it as much as the Playstation gamers...

Love how some people are going with specs only like it is 100% of the game experience...
114% to 225% ROFL give me a break...

You're right, there isn't a 225% difference between the X1 and PS4 versions of COD. In fact, it's greater than 225% because the color pallette in the X1 version is incredibly gross in comparison to the PS4 version.

To deny the math is to deny the objective facts. Multiplats look and run significantly better on the PS4 than on the X1. The difference between 720p and 1080p is really big. People notice it immediately. 60 fps runs significantly better than 30 fps. Those extra frames help the games run like butter and signficantly affects the gameplay. Heck, the framerate in the X1 version of Tomb Raider: DE falls below 30 fps, which is a big "no-no". A few times, it dips into the teens which is utter blegh.

Multiplats may be enjoyable on the X1, but they are MORE enjoyable on the PS4. Sometimes, X1 multiplats don't run fluidly the entire way (e.g. Tomb Raider: DE). Sometimes, the presentation looks worse on the X1 versions (e.g. color pallette on COD: Ghosts and lack of ambient occlusion in Battlefield 4). Who would not want a clearer, sharper picture? Who wouldn't want that smoother framerate? Why the heck would I purposely deprive myself of those kinds of luxuries?

Significantly better gaming experience...  Nobody denied your ridiculous maths man, it is just completly ridiculous to compare the end-user experience like that. At least you are funny with you buzzwords and 225% better on one platform, I give you that!

Anyway, keep coming with your logic, whatever help you sleep at night :)



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POE on 27 September 2014

Hello Jega.

I love my Wii U but i think the Xbox One is good too :D



Aura7541 on 27 September 2014
Imaginedvl said:
Aura7541 said:

You're right, there isn't a 225% difference between the X1 and PS4 versions of COD. In fact, it's greater than 225% because the color pallette in the X1 version is incredibly gross in comparison to the PS4 version.

To deny the math is to deny the objective facts. Multiplats look and run significantly better on the PS4 than on the X1. The difference between 720p and 1080p is really big. People notice it immediately. 60 fps runs significantly better than 30 fps. Those extra frames help the games run like butter and signficantly affects the gameplay. Heck, the framerate in the X1 version of Tomb Raider: DE falls below 30 fps, which is a big "no-no". A few times, it dips into the teens which is utter blegh.

Multiplats may be enjoyable on the X1, but they are MORE enjoyable on the PS4. Sometimes, X1 multiplats don't run fluidly the entire way (e.g. Tomb Raider: DE). Sometimes, the presentation looks worse on the X1 versions (e.g. color pallette on COD: Ghosts and lack of ambient occlusion in Battlefield 4). Who would not want a clearer, sharper picture? Who wouldn't want that smoother framerate? Why the heck would I purposely deprive myself of those kinds of luxuries?

Significantly better gaming experience...  Nobody denied your ridiculous maths man, it is just completly ridiculous to compare the end-user experience like that. At least you are funny with you buzzwords and 225% better on one platform, I give you that!

Anyway, keep coming with your logic, whatever help you sleep at night :)

But you actually did deny. This is literally the fastest I've seen someone forget what he/she has said... -_-"

Exhibit A: "And the majority (close to 99%) will enjoy it as much as the Playstation gamers..."

Make up your mind, man! Do the majority find the PS4 mutliplats a significantly better gaming experience or do they enjoy the PS4 and X1 multiplats equally? Anyways, at least you've admitted that the PS4 versions of multiplats offer a significantly better gaming experience.



Mr Khan on 27 September 2014
Imaginedvl said:
Aura7541 said:
sweetoothj said:
There is hardly any difference between ps4 and xbox one multiplatform games. That is why reviewers don't knock off point on either version. This is due to the fact that multiplatform games uses same assets so at best it sharpens image quality. Not only this, but most people don't have a 1080p tv. They have the typical 720p tv.

And yet, you don't have any evidence to back this notion. Besides, there are a bunch of 1080p monitors that can be bought for lower than $200, so I highly doubt that most people don't have a 1080p screen. Also, a 720p native resolution upscaled to 1080p resolution makes the picture more blurry. Doesn't matter how good the upscaler does. The picture will still end up much blurrier than a native 1080p pic. A 1080p resolution has 225% more pixels than a 720p resolution.

And if you think there's hardly any difference between the PS4 and X1 multiplats, then read my previous comment. The difference between the X1 to PS4 versions range from 144% to 225%. That's way too significant for there to be "hardly any difference"... -__-"

lol at this. I tought your previous comment was a joke but if you bring it back again let me respond.

You cannot possibly be serious into just laying down those res/fps and talk about it like it a very tangible way to differentiate the game experience for gamers... No, there is no 225% difference in the experience of playing Call of Duty from Xbox One to PS4... The game may be sharper/smoother on one console but talking about "225%" difference makes no sense what so ever... The game is as fun and as enjoyable on both console and it looks good and fluid on BOTH consoles...

Yes some people (esp. non Xbox One gamers...) will notice and cry about some FPS slowdown here and there but nothing like "it is 225%" less playable/enjoyable. And the majority (close to 99%) will enjoy it as much as the Playstation gamers...

Love how some people are going with specs only like it is 100% of the game experience...
114% to 225% ROFL give me a break...

Cool your heels a bit. Your next ban is a long one, recall.



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Imaginedvl on 27 September 2014
Aura7541 said:
Imaginedvl said:
Aura7541 said:

You're right, there isn't a 225% difference between the X1 and PS4 versions of COD. In fact, it's greater than 225% because the color pallette in the X1 version is incredibly gross in comparison to the PS4 version.

To deny the math is to deny the objective facts. Multiplats look and run significantly better on the PS4 than on the X1. The difference between 720p and 1080p is really big. People notice it immediately. 60 fps runs significantly better than 30 fps. Those extra frames help the games run like butter and signficantly affects the gameplay. Heck, the framerate in the X1 version of Tomb Raider: DE falls below 30 fps, which is a big "no-no". A few times, it dips into the teens which is utter blegh.

Multiplats may be enjoyable on the X1, but they are MORE enjoyable on the PS4. Sometimes, X1 multiplats don't run fluidly the entire way (e.g. Tomb Raider: DE). Sometimes, the presentation looks worse on the X1 versions (e.g. color pallette on COD: Ghosts and lack of ambient occlusion in Battlefield 4). Who would not want a clearer, sharper picture? Who wouldn't want that smoother framerate? Why the heck would I purposely deprive myself of those kinds of luxuries?

Significantly better gaming experience...  Nobody denied your ridiculous maths man, it is just completly ridiculous to compare the end-user experience like that. At least you are funny with you buzzwords and 225% better on one platform, I give you that!

Anyway, keep coming with your logic, whatever help you sleep at night :)

But you actually did deny. This is literally the fastest I've seen someone forget what he/she has said... -_-"

Exhibit A: "And the majority (close to 99%) will enjoy it as much as the Playstation gamers..."

Make up your mind, man! Do the majority find the PS4 mutliplats a significantly better gaming experience or do they enjoy the PS4 and X1 multiplats equally? Anyways, at least you've admitted that the PS4 versions of multiplats offer a significantly better gaming experience.

I never denied your maths. I said that it makes no sense to use that resolution/fps difference to compare the whole game experience on both platform is ridiculous... So stop bullshiting with your "literally the fastest you've seen to forgot" etc...

As far as your exhibit (do you find yourself funny there?), just read the sentence again :) Maybe it is late and you are sleepy but I said that basically 99% of people find the experience equivalent. Not sure how you turned this sentence into a "majority find the PS4 multiplats significantly better". 

Moderated,

-Mr Khan



Aura7541 on 27 September 2014
Imaginedvl said:
Aura7541 said:

But you actually did deny. This is literally the fastest I've seen someone forget what he/she has said... -_-"

Exhibit A: "And the majority (close to 99%) will enjoy it as much as the Playstation gamers..."

Make up your mind, man! Do the majority find the PS4 mutliplats a significantly better gaming experience or do they enjoy the PS4 and X1 multiplats equally? Anyways, at least you've admitted that the PS4 versions of multiplats offer a significantly better gaming experience.

I never denied your maths. I said that it makes no sense to use that resolution/fps difference to compare the whole game experience on both platform is ridiculous... So stop bullshiting with your "literally the fastest you've seen to forgot" etc...

As far as your exhibit (do you find yourself funny there?), just read the sentence again :) Maybe it is late and you are sleepy but I said that basically 99% of people find the experience equivalent. Not sure how you turned this sentence into a "majority find the PS4 multiplats significantly better". 

Yes, you have denied the math. You literally forgot what you have said in your comment before. You said that the majority of gamers (and you have explicitly said 99%) enjoy both versions equally. However, you, yourself, admitted that the PS4 multiplats are significantly better ("Significantly better gaming experience..."). And the majority of consumers find PS4 multiplats significantly better hency why you know, they sell better and move the PS4 hardware better, too. The differences quantitavely are large enough that they can see the differences qualitatively. We're not talking about a few horizantal lines of difference in resolution or 1-3 frames of difference. We're talking about 30 frames of difference or a twice-as-much pixels of difference here.