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well, they've purposely set this up for failure. Delayed it past the game drought when would were starved for games and waiting until the massive games for the Wii U to come out such as smash, sonic, Captain toad, Bayonetta? Not to mention on the 3DS as well with Pokemon? Like come on. They made a statement saying that Nintendo owners don't want mature games so they needed to make sure this game would fail so their statement would not be contradicted and plus, they can blame Nintendo fans for not buying their game but instead buying more popular games.



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Well it's going to be D.O.A.

I'm pretty sure SSB will release around then.



This version of the game is sent just to die and nothing more and will be used as another excuse by Ubisoft, released months after release of other version in the middle of a busy holiday season? Yeah good luck with that.



cycycychris said:
ikki5 said:

well, they've purposely set this up for failure. Delayed it past the game drought when would were starved for games and waiting until the massive games for the Wii U to come out such as smash, sonic, Captain toad, Bayonetta? Not to mention on the 3DS as well with Pokemon? Like come on. They made a statement saying that Nintendo owners don't want mature games so they needed to make sure this game would fail so their statement would not be contradicted and plus, they can blame Nintendo fans for not buying their game but instead buying more popular games.

I don't think they are purposely trying to make it fail. I think the game is done by now and they are holding it back since they think it will sell the best during the holiday season. That's why this day has taken so long. They want to cash in on Christmas. I think it maybe a bit of oversight on there part with the release date. I don't think they totally get that Smash is going to crush any news about there game releasing. They think right now that Smash is going to sell a lot of consoles and that's is going to give them more people to sell to. It would have been much better to release sometime in October. But I so think we'll get blamed for the bad sales even though it's a issue they created.


lets see, recently they talked about how Nintendo fans don't buy their games and that now they don't want to support Nintendo like they used to. But yet, if you look at their games, they restrict content from their games, they delay them without reason (rayman for example) until times when they would have competition, this game for example, Rayman is another one. Then they blame Nintendo for the slow sales even though if they released the games on time, they would not be competing with other very popular games, even more popular games. Their strategies totally contracdict themselves. They claim how much support they had but then they just totally did the opposite by shafting Nintendo, delaying the games, and using marketing strategies that overall inhibit. Why would they do this? It makes no sense. Now they are talking about withdrawing support because Nintendo fans don't want their games. But think about it. If you could only afford one game at a time, Which would you buy first? Smash or Watch Dogs? It just doesn't make sense at all on a marketing wise unless you are setting this up to fail to justify your statements.



Brotherstotheend said:
Toxy said:


Ubisoft were one of my favourite third party developers... but this year alone has made me take that back.
No new Prince of Persia games or Age of Empires. I believe that they have lost their touch.

age of empires belongs to microsoft, not sure why ubisoft should make a new one

My bad, I know I have seen the Ubisoft logo on some Age of Empires games, however you are right - they are owned by Microsoft Studios, Ubisoft must have just done some ports or a rerelease here and there.



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cycycychris said:
OP has been updated with the news that came today.

Just found out my original betting partner wasn't perma-banned after all, so can we amend the bet to me having to buy the game if it's technically better than on PS3?



ikki5 said:

But think about it. If you could only afford one game at a time, Which would you buy first? Smash or Watch Dogs? 

Watch Dogs. :p



cycycychris said:

I don't think they are purposely trying to make it fail. I think the game is done by now and they are holding it back since they think it will sell the best during the holiday season. That's why this day has taken so long. They want to cash in on Christmas. I think it maybe a bit of oversight on there part with the release date. I don't think they totally get that Smash is going to crush any news about there game releasing. They think right now that Smash is going to sell a lot of consoles and that's is going to give them more people to sell to. It would have been much better to release sometime in October. But I so think we'll get blamed for the bad sales even though it's a issue they created.

The game is not 100% done yet, I have a friend that works in Ubi and the title has not reached Gold status yet (and that usually happens 1 month before release), but they do wanted to cash on the holiday season as traditionally Nintendo consoles and games sell better during that period of the year, I don't think they wanted to go against Smash and maybe we may see a last minute 1 week bump, but even that is unlikely, actually the full month is too crowded for Ubisoft interest, they have 4 big games coming out for the other consoles and they are clashing with themselves in several products, but they cannot delay anything and risk losing the holiday shopping spree push.



cycycychris said:

hmm, that truely does surprise me then. I thought they got behind and it would be a quick 4 month process to port it over. I guess this is why I'm not an expert. Just out of curosity, what has your friend been willing to tell you about this whole Wii U ordeal over this process?

He does not work directly on this project, so he only gets glimpses of the situation, the Budapest team was splitted to help the other teams to complete the other versions by May, since those were actually very poor and boring in the early builds (reason of the first delay for all consoles), nothing was done during those 5 months on the Wii U edition and he though it was cancelled, so he was really surprised when he saw new progress reports for the game in July, so he let me know that there was nothing to worry that the game was still coming after all, and recently he told me that it was almost done and that release date should come soon. I cannot share anything else or he may get in trouble as NDA and confidentiallity clauses are there.



cycycychris said:

ah, I see he was already broke it then(I wish we had a EA insider.I would love to know the whole process that happened with the Wii U, not jsut theories from the media. But the NDA would come in also).

Basicly what I though happened. I think they even at one point came out and admited they broke the team apart. It cracks me up when people still say that they delayed this for the gamepad. It seems pretty obivous to me why they did what they did. That was obivously just a work around on the situation. They could careless about the gamepad, they want this game gone as soon as possible(refering to way back in May).

Gamepad integration takes 2 or 3 weeks of work from a very small team to implement, depending on what you want to do with it, it does affect development but nothing too serious, if they want to use only remote play that can be done in 1 week, is very easy.

They admited the team splitting in march of this year, in some interviews like this one..

http://gamerant.com/watch-dogs-wii-u-delay-explained/

It actually takes courage to release a delayed game on a console in which has shown very few support, so it pisses me off that people dismiss the effort and talks bad about the game or the developers, just keep quite and don't buy it that is bad enough.

By the way I do have a friend who works on EA, but is lower on the food chain so there is almost nothing he can share about their bussiness decisions, only that those were bussiness decisions supported by research data of their marketing teams. The painful part is that he can get me their games for a very good price, but they don't produce anything for my console of choice.