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WhiteEaglePL said:
impertinence said:
WhiteEaglePL said:
theprof00 said:
impertinence said:

I might be dense, but I am uneasy with why all but three players are cleared. A run down again would be nice, as far as I know, we have 4 claimed scans and 2 claimed scanners. I don't remember exactly who was scanned outside of Padib and Carl. I seem to recall Trucks and Cone also, but I could be wrong. Wither way, there are plenty of players left that are not confirmed by scans. Are these players considered cleared because they have a claimed role that sort of makes sense and that's it?

Pretty much.
Although I've already voiced concern that the people who have claimed roles could still be the nuke.

The other 5 with confirmed roles or whatever is:
Khan
Trucks -stim marine
WEPL -shield marine
Wonk
Radish -regular marine

?


Mr Khan is a confirmed town , 100%. Shield Marine aswell.  All 3 questions about just 1 statistc were correct and matching , even that 1 last trick qustion one.

He could still be the nuke


But how? He is a vanilla like me with extra defence... (specific number we can't tell but it matches.)

Just because he has the same role and stats than you doesn't mean he couldn't have something more. 



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Also to prof: if this is all just a run-around to try to trap me as the nuke, could we just stop right now? I am not sure we are down to three possible nukes but if there's no real intention to look outside myself, spurge and eric I'd rather not waste the time trying to make sense of it.



impertinence said:
Also to prof: if this is all just a run-around to try to trap me as the nuke, could we just stop right now? I am not sure we are down to three possible nukes but if there's no real intention to look outside myself, spurge and eric I'd rather not waste the time trying to make sense of it.

I honestly have no idea how you would come to that conclusion. Feeling nervous? :D

I completely agree with you and everything you've said to WEPL I have already said days ago. I'm only going after these 3 because well, that's what town has decided. I think Spurge is a hit, but not entirely sure he's the nuke.

I think eric is a good possibility as well. I wouldn't mind him being killed tonight.

After that we have trucks, wonk, khan, WEPL, radish.
WEPL and Khan are shield marines? I'm very inclined to believe WEPL based on how he's played.
Khan? I'm not entirely sure.
Radish I'm pretty confident is town, especially with that response to Spurge's scan ("How could you possibly get a hazy result?")
Trucks...Trucks appears to be actively scumhunting, and it seems like when he gets around to re-reading people (ISO) he makes the right call on them. He saw Sparks as scum, and me as town. That being said, the stim is a good ward against being attacked.
Wonk? well, I dunno. Wonk is weird. I feel like he's buddied with me a bit with my joking (hopefully that's just him being genuinely playful) and he appears to have coached astro day 1, and also went after sparks but then backed off (he did the same with astro). But this could just be paranoid townie behavior. It's potentially scummy as mafia, but could also be nuke.

So, In my opinion, the best chances for the nuke outside of spurge, are:
Eric
Wonk
Khan
Trucks

If padib takes one of them out, and we scan the other two that should be enough info to wrap him up.



spurgeonryan said:

@ bold

Yes. Do not claim. But old spurge nearly gets shot for refusing to give it all up on the first date.

You've been called out for having a hazy scan and an incorrect scan.

You've already given your role. Your unit and ability name shouldn't even matter at this point.

Who cares what the cop's name is?



Oh, that list includes you imp ;)



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Imp, I doubt Khan would have something else.



theprof00 said:
impertinence said:
Also to prof: if this is all just a run-around to try to trap me as the nuke, could we just stop right now? I am not sure we are down to three possible nukes but if there's no real intention to look outside myself, spurge and eric I'd rather not waste the time trying to make sense of it.

I honestly have no idea how you would come to that conclusion. Feeling nervous? :D

I completely agree with you and everything you've said to WEPL I have already said days ago. I'm only going after these 3 because well, that's what town has decided. I think Spurge is a hit, but not entirely sure he's the nuke.

I think eric is a good possibility as well. I wouldn't mind him being killed tonight.

After that we have trucks, wonk, khan, WEPL, radish.
WEPL and Khan are shield marines? I'm very inclined to believe WEPL based on how he's played.
Khan? I'm not entirely sure.
Radish I'm pretty confident is town, especially with that response to Spurge's scan ("How could you possibly get a hazy result?")
Trucks...Trucks appears to be actively scumhunting, and it seems like when he gets around to re-reading people (ISO) he makes the right call on them. He saw Sparks as scum, and me as town. That being said, the stim is a good ward against being attacked.
Wonk? well, I dunno. Wonk is weird. I feel like he's buddied with me a bit with my joking (hopefully that's just him being genuinely playful) and he appears to have coached astro day 1, and also went after sparks but then backed off (he did the same with astro). But this could just be paranoid townie behavior. It's potentially scummy as mafia, but could also be nuke.

So, In my opinion, the best chances for the nuke outside of spurge, are:
Eric
Wonk
Khan
Trucks

If padib takes one of them out, and we scan the other two that should be enough info to wrap him up.


well if you believe me then I can asure you that Khan has the exact same stats as me.

Also, you left out imp.



theprof00 said:

So, In my opinion, the best chances for the nuke outside of spurge, are:

Eric
Wonk
Khan
Trucks

If padib takes one of them out, and we scan the other two that should be enough info to wrap him up.

You're forgetting Wright scanned me.



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theprof00 said:
impertinence said:
Also to prof: if this is all just a run-around to try to trap me as the nuke, could we just stop right now? I am not sure we are down to three possible nukes but if there's no real intention to look outside myself, spurge and eric I'd rather not waste the time trying to make sense of it.

I honestly have no idea how you would come to that conclusion. Feeling nervous? :D

I completely agree with you and everything you've said to WEPL I have already said days ago. I'm only going after these 3 because well, that's what town has decided. I think Spurge is a hit, but not entirely sure he's the nuke.

I think eric is a good possibility as well. I wouldn't mind him being killed tonight.

After that we have trucks, wonk, khan, WEPL, radish.
WEPL and Khan are shield marines? I'm very inclined to believe WEPL based on how he's played.
Khan? I'm not entirely sure.
Radish I'm pretty confident is town, especially with that response to Spurge's scan ("How could you possibly get a hazy result?")
Trucks...Trucks appears to be actively scumhunting, and it seems like when he gets around to re-reading people (ISO) he makes the right call on them. He saw Sparks as scum, and me as town. That being said, the stim is a good ward against being attacked.
Wonk? well, I dunno. Wonk is weird. I feel like he's buddied with me a bit with my joking (hopefully that's just him being genuinely playful) and he appears to have coached astro day 1, and also went after sparks but then backed off (he did the same with astro). But this could just be paranoid townie behavior. It's potentially scummy as mafia, but could also be nuke.

So, In my opinion, the best chances for the nuke outside of spurge, are:
Eric
Wonk
Khan
Trucks

If padib takes one of them out, and we scan the other two that should be enough info to wrap him up.

I am not nervous, but not stupid either. I've seen a thing or two this game and I am only interested in making the search for the nuke as presise as possible. I understand why you think I might be suspicious (despite strategically leaving me out of the list of suspects) and accept that town will have to scan me, though it will be a wasted scan which is the only thing that worries me about that. So, I was just honestly trying to avoid getting into and endless round about where you try to set traps for me and then me having to go into minutea about every little detail. Not that I mind doing that, since that can be fun as well but right now I don't feel liek wasting irl time and it's not going to get town anywhere.

So, back to the list at hand.

As you know, I agree that Spurge is a likely nuke candidate so it's not like I'm doing this to try to push someone else, I just want to take the time we have to get a solid path forward for town that leads to the nuke one way or another. But, the suspicion I have of Spurge is largely connected to his backing of Padib and jump on Wright. The whole EMP scan thing has me rethinking everything padib did yesterday. Of course, it's still possible that Spurge saw padib's claims and independently jumped on a chance to get rid of Wright.

I get a good town read on White as well, so I agree with that.

The case against Eric I am not so sure about. The thing that mostly points towards him being the nuke to me is that he was prodded and had a chance to tap out, but didn't take it. He came back and posted some more nonsense. He wants to play, but doesn't want to do anything. The thing that doesn't sit so well for me is that if he is the nuke, the notorious lurking and constant stalling is almost too obvious. I get the feeling he is just a really new player who doesn't know what to do. He's supposed to be back today with more excellent analysis and thoughts. I am not holding my breath. Acctually, the more I type of this paragraph, the more likely it seems he is the nuke. We need to get rid of him one way or another.

So let's say padib is able to kill with his role (though it seems more likely he can attack and who knows if his attack is strogn enough to kill on it's own) I agree he should go after Eric. Pretending that you kill spurge toDay and he is not the nuke and padib kills eric, how do we make sure scum doesn't kill the same people as we target? can we trust them to be smart enough to go after the nuke list or will they try to gun for power roles?

Ok, this is getting scattered, I'll stop here and think some more.



spurgeonryan said:
I would like to say. Does Khan seem funny to ya'll? Why was it so imperitive that WOW got him here, and why is it a major favor?
Then he cannot take time to read, and then when he supposedly finally does he changes his mind.

Now he is just voting random people. Padib is a fine vote ifyou think he is the nuker. But with two nights left....we are kind of running out of time. This is not to pick on you alone khan. Just giving my thoughts on you.

But the huge need to get a replacement for bugrimar and your great sacrifice you made in coming here seems strange. I did not play much with you last game though so I do not know your playstyle.


I think it was either have a player in or not - which could affect the balance in favor of Town or Mafia. But in this case I strongly belive Mafia.