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padib didn't answer my question about which StarCraft games he played but I'll speak my mind anyway.

If you're only familiar with StarCraft II then yes the logical conclusion is that the EMP shot comes a Ghost but to a StarCraft I player like myself, the EMP Shockwave is an ability associated with.... drumroll... a Science Vessel which is what Wright has kinda claimed (he claimed to be an officer in charge of a Science Vessel).

Maybe WoW combined the Science Vessel powers for the detector ability and since my unit isn't affected by EMP because Marines don't have shield or energy to cast spells, I didn't feel anything. Perhaps, padib just felt the EMP because he's a powerful unit and Wright only use Detector on him and never attacked him.



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Another thing, I failed to mention earlier and I feel kinda stupid for not making the link but padib claims to be Alexei Stukov and Alexei Stukov is a fucking Ghost.



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(1) impertinence - WhiteEaglePL
(2) spurgeonryan- theprof00, radishhead
(3) Wright - padib, spurgeonryan, Wonktonodi

(7) Not Voting - Carl2291, ConeGamer, EricFabian, impertinence, Mr Khan, TruckOSaurus, Wright

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

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It would make sense for an emp to be associated with detection as it drains ghosts of their energy which makes them appear.



Hows this for a theory.
EMPs in the game drains energy, which, since ghosts rely on energy for their cloaking, unmasks ghosts.
Now, Wright got a "not using cloaking" on padib because padib truly, is not a cloaking unit. He's not the ghost.
Padib however, has energy, which was drained or maybe not, so he felt the emp shockwave.
Since trucks doesn't have energy, he did not feel it.
What this would mean is that wright is not the nuke, and his detect is actually from an emp shockwave, and padib is not a nuke because he's not the ghost.



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This actually nicely ties everything up.
It would mean wright is not the nuke and not lying.
It would mean padib is not incorrect about his flavor pm.
And it would mean padib is not the ghost (still a third party non-town though)

Whiiich brings us all the way back to the first three suspects.
Imp, spurge, eric.



padib said:

I already answered it Carl. Regarding my Sense ability.

About the EMP, the reason I thought it was a templar was because (and I can't quote my PM so don't ask) the EMP was just an aftershock of a hurtful object that attack me. Because I was unvulnerable, I assumed I was attacked by a warrior and I just felt nothing, and that the EMP was the psionic energy from a Dark Templar blade. When you pointed me to what it actually was, I agreed with you.

But more importantly Carl, for what reason would I lie about being attacked by a Ghost, if I would be said ghost?

Quoted here.

Padib felt two hits. Padib was attacked and also felt the emp.
Which would also (if I'm right, hopefully) that padib was both attacked by the mafia AND scanned by wright.



padib said:
Carl2291 said:
padib said:

So far so good :)

radishhead said:
No deaths! Does anyone have any information to report before we begin?

Sure I'll chime in.

I was attacked yesterday by some kind of heavy object, which caused an EMP current though my body and put me to sleep. I believe it was meant to block me yesterday Night, but like I said I was unvulnerable and did not move on night 2.

It's most likely that the protoss didn't believe me and wanted to make sure I didn't strike early.


EMP?

You were attacked by a Ghost.

I'm not sure why a Ghost would want to block me. It didn't harm me (though I was invulnerable) and it didn't block me. I'm not sure why a Ghost would play that given that I was clear about my night actions. Perhaps they did not believe me, or perhaps it was a rogue Ghost.

Put you to sleep huh?

Now why would an emp put a terran to sleep?
Terran energy comes from equipment.
Protoss energy comes from mystical magic
Zerg energy is biological



Words Of Wisdom said:

On the bright side, a Protoss was dead.  On the sad side, there was now or had been Protoss.  So it was that as Space Marine Erin pondered this turn of events, the fear of Protoss added itself to the fears of death by nuclear holocaust and sheepsplosion.  The following morning, Space Marine Erin was getting ready for a big day.  As she gazed out of her quarters' window and looked down at the people below she saw one person running across a field.  She idly raised a finger, pointed it at the person, and made a "pew" sound.  The person fell over.  She looked at her finger accusingly for a moment and then dashed out of her quarters.

When all was said and done, the bodies of two Space Marines were recovered:  Nicklesbe (Marine) and HylianSwordsman (Marine).

Day 2 begin.

One dark templar kill.



padib said:

Thanks Wright, this alleviates my suspicion of you a lot. My notes in underlined.

Wright said:
padib said:

Sadly I'm not very good at drilling people. It's not my forte.

However, when I confronted you on your reads, it wasn't on any kind of night information or anything like that. I confronted you for reads that seemed to be fabricated like:

"khan scum as placeholder"

and

"cone town as placeholder"

That kind of thing.

Though thanks for at least being possibly the only person to admit I've been upfront and clear.


Alright, let me go back to my original post and work it from there.

 

Wright said:

EricFabian thinks I'm the nuker. I also think he's the nuker because he felt interested with the bombing trivia I gave at the beginning of the game.

Nothing new to add here, tbh.

I am dumbfounded by how much players have drilled me this day, meanwhile a player like EricFabian can sit in the background and laugh his way into day 5.

Padib's message gave me a nuker vibe too. The reasoning is, he claims he's hazardous to the zerg or whatever enemy goes here, and that no matter if they try going for him they will regret it. Meaning he could kill them all with the bomb, indeed (killing us all in the process as well), so his speech isn't pure bluffing. Outside that, could be scum trying to cover his back, or could be town looking for trouble. I'm inclined to think he's this last one.

This was clarified already, so you're nuker placeholder no more. While I don't really comprehend what your character truly is (until we see your potential in action), you've been telling the whole group what you really are. I pretty much doubt that was an elaborate lie, especially with Carl doing you Starcraft-related questions to verify, so I'm trusting here from now on.

Put it this way, if at this point my story is a lie I would have to be insane. How many claims can a person possibly make without running into problems. I mean I've revealed my night 1 action, the races of the first killers, how I was attacked last night, my 2nd night skill, my flavor. It baffles me.

Prof went back and defended me, even though he really didn't have any reasons to, outside being a buddy. I call him town. He also gives interesting insight, though he's usually under fire from the other users.

To be honest here, I don't really know why Prof has been defending me. I haven't talked to him much, nor he has conversated with me a lot throughout the game (and I even confronted him once for voting someone without giving any kind of explanation). All I can say is that I'm glad he trust me.

I'm also glad he trusts you, but put yourself in my shoes. Why would your uninformed townie play that way?

WhiteEagle keeps messing us with his role powers, or role condition, or whatever. He gets a scum vibe from me, because it could be easy to just come out and say it already, instead of walking in circles. The fact that he has gone to these lenghts to not say it also makes me thing he has a secret he needs to protect, but not necessarily something evil (i.e being scum); instead, a power that could be helpful to townies.

I think we all agree'd on WhiteEagle having a Town Shield Marine.

Agreed

impertinence is a dude with a sharp eye and witty comments. Can't say anything about him. He could literally be anything in this game based on what he has been saying and how he analizes things.

He hasn't been very active ToDay. Would like to hear his impressions first.

I've been pretty content with Impertinence personally, he's been offering a lot of good inputs and suspicions in the game. But I agree that he is still a null read on my end.

I'd say Carl is town based on how he went all over me. Judging what WoW told me, also, I have even less reasons to doubt his town condition.

Nothing to add here.

My only question is, what exactly could WoW tell you to makeyou certain he's town? Isn't that unfair and game-breaking?

Mr. Khan is new to the table. I'm going to say scum as a placeholder.

The reason is that he's new to the match, and we don't know what Bugrimmar really was considering his lack of will and participation. Just for this fact I have to automatically suspect him, in case he gets over the role of a scum and start playing the "sorry, lots of reading to do so excuse me while I do so" while he goes on a rampage killing people. There's no other reason why I put him as a scum placeholder.

Yeah, I am also nervous about that.

Conegamer isn't that much active (kinda like me), so I have not much data to work with. I'm going to say townie as placeholder.

A bit of meta game here. I put him as a townie placeholder unless more information is given because in the last mafia round I confronted him even without any kind of proof or basis and he turned out to be legal.

In this case, if you're playing meta, when a player flips town in one game, the probability only is higher that he is mafia the more games he flips town. In other words it's unlikely that a player is always town, at some point he will end up mafia.

Wonk makes small but specific comments at precise times. He has done several things to cast suspicious on him, but all things considered, he joined Carl when he was confronting me, and again, given what WoW told me, I have not much reasons to doubt him either. Doubt he is scum, so far I think he's town.

My only gripe is that he hardly let any info slip. I confronted him about the nuke once, but couldn't extract any kind of info.

Yeah, that's true. Wonk does have that impenetrable feel. You almost get that feeling that, if he's scum, you're cooked.

I'd say Spurge is scum because of his insistence that I should post more. Maybe he wants me to lynch some townie so that he gets away with it.

Yeah, this haven't changed. Spurge is nowhere to be seen now, but he mostly incites people to give their impressions for him to be the judge of it without sharing anything in regard.

This is something I've noticed too. Spurge is good at shedding doubt on players without necessarily voting for them, and then just sitting in the background while the players get grilled.

Radishead has hardly commented, though he gave me insight of Starcraft's units. I'm going to say nuker as placeholder (would explain his lack of activity, since he doesn't want to really let anything slip). I'll investigate this later, though EricFabian and Padib are also possible nukers.

I'm still on it. He's still on nuker placeholder.

I seriously have no idea what to think of Radish.

Smeags is a mistery.

Just like WoW. Heh.

hah! :)