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archer9234 on 30 August 2014
Kallumsmarties said:

People keep banging on that it's too soon and were not even getting it for like another year lol. TBH it seems perfect timing for Japan, must odd for this.

It's too soon because when it does come out there won't be that much time till the actual succesor to the 3DS line gets released. It feels like a waste in that regard (ALA GBA Micro & GBA SP2). And also a FU to all the other owners. Then you question why was this made? If people decide to skip it and wait for the next system. Why was the games made for the new 3DS then just done for the next handheld from the start. And be launch games.



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oniyide on 30 August 2014
tbone51 said:
oniyide said:
tbone51 said:
Namiirei said:
Squeezol said:
I'm too salty to give a non-biased opinion on this new 3DS..


Same for me.

I don't understand what nintendo tried to do, but i don't think it's a good move.


Im surprised that many are surprised at all of this when it happened in the past. Also it will  be 4 years after the launch of 3DS (excluding Japan which is about 3 years and 9 months). I can understand if they did this in its 1st or 2nd year, but i do understand for those who recently bought one. At least they told us about it now jst in case if anybody wanted to buy a 3ds/xl/2ds this holiday O.o


they've essentially released a new version of the same thing every year. IMHO i dont see how that is a good thing and i dotn think that sends a good message to the average consumer who isnt a big Ninty fan. You cna get away with that with cell phones and tablets. 

It gives us options, thats why its a good thing. (3ds/XL/2DS), dont see a problem with that at all. Video game industry has been doing this for years, it aint news. X1 came out 9 months ago and after 7 months Kinectless SKU. Handhelds from every generation had different models.

Hell you can even count Colors+Consoles with bigger memory or even slim models. Video game industry has always done this, Reguarding the N3DS+N3DSXL, thy are both coming out at the same time vs just 1 coming out then anther a year after and nintendo has literally done this with every Handheld in some way. Yet they are still and by far  #1 :)

Also http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=189406&page=1#2   We'll see how well N3DS/XL does soon


no the video game industry has not been doing this for years. Tell me another product that has had a new revision or version every year? they dont it would be suicide all it does is confuse masses people who dont follow games like that. IF ninty really cared about options why not have all these available from the beginning or close to it? Glad you mentioned xbone, look how well thats doing. 

Oh we will see. If it doesnt increase its baseline by anything significant im calling a dud



oniyide on 30 August 2014
archer9234 said:
oniyide said:
archer9234 said:
oniyide said:
IMHO, i dont think this is going to help. If someone wasnt interested in 3ds before extra ram and some ports of Wii games isnt going to change their mind. Especially with a handheld as that kind of stuff has NEVER been important before. I dont really know who Nintendo is trying to sell this too. Casuals who werent interested arent going to care all of a sudden, core gamers who have one already arent probably going to double dip. Hardcore ninty fans MIGHT buy this, but IMO i think Ninty is pushing the limit on this. You have to buy another version of something you already have to play the full library, its screwed either way, if they make a bunch of NEW 3ds games people are going to feel gyped. If they make a few then they are going ot wonder what the point was.

It has two things. One: It's to boost sales. Another 3 million helps Nintendo, like the 2DS. Two: the people that buy every version of Nintendo products.


one: boost sales? isnt the 3ds down YOY? this is going to help? I doubt that very much two: that number isnt as big as some people hope it is. and what kind of message is that to send anyway?

It does boosts sales. Even if it's small. People send that message to companies. That's why they do it. It's the same thing were people complain about bad DLC deals. They exsist because enough people don't care they're bad and still get them.


you mean how the 2ds boosted sales? wait...



oniyide on 30 August 2014
tbone51 said:
oniyide said:

For Japanese Reference...

2011: 4.31mil

2012: 5.50mil

2013: 5.10mil

2014: 1.25mil (estimate of around 2.5mil) but now it can be 3.0mil+

2015: 3.0mil???

3DS might not decline in 2015 which i would of guess did 1.5mil-2mil that year if N3DS wasnt coming out.

we'll have to agree to disagree. it did 5.10 mil last year and you think it doing a bit above 3mil is good? no thats bad, quite bad it is a massive drop and it would be the worst year for 3ds period, thats especially bad WITH newer HW. and 2015 wont do much better? Just because it might not do as bad without N3ds doesnt mean it still wont be bad. For it to be anywhere near good. I say it needs 4mil at least that would put it close to launch numbers. Having the 3ds peak in the 2nd year is not good no matter how one wants to spin it

Your definitely not looking at the whole picture, have you seen japanese sales? 3mil is great sales for a year go chek out how every other HH/Console did and you'll see :)

Your only looking at it from 3DS amazing years, those years are very very good. There's a difference. I bet Vita wished it had a 3mil year, i bet WiiU wished it had a 3mil year, no matter how anyody spins it 3mil is great for japan.


im comparing 3ds sales...to 3ds sales. that kind of drop is not great its irrelevant what the others are doing. and its even worse when you consider how early it peaked. 

edit: if we are talking about big picture why are we talking JUST Japan. IMHO it seems a little odd that they are going so hard in a region where they are already doing decent to good. We havent even discussed the rest of the world where i imagine the impact would be even more neglible and that is where 3ds actually needs to do better.



archer9234 on 30 August 2014
oniyide said:
archer9234 said:
oniyide said:
archer9234 said:
oniyide said:
IMHO, i dont think this is going to help. If someone wasnt interested in 3ds before extra ram and some ports of Wii games isnt going to change their mind. Especially with a handheld as that kind of stuff has NEVER been important before. I dont really know who Nintendo is trying to sell this too. Casuals who werent interested arent going to care all of a sudden, core gamers who have one already arent probably going to double dip. Hardcore ninty fans MIGHT buy this, but IMO i think Ninty is pushing the limit on this. You have to buy another version of something you already have to play the full library, its screwed either way, if they make a bunch of NEW 3ds games people are going to feel gyped. If they make a few then they are going ot wonder what the point was.

It has two things. One: It's to boost sales. Another 3 million helps Nintendo, like the 2DS. Two: the people that buy every version of Nintendo products.


one: boost sales? isnt the 3ds down YOY? this is going to help? I doubt that very much two: that number isnt as big as some people hope it is. and what kind of message is that to send anyway?

It does boosts sales. Even if it's small. People send that message to companies. That's why they do it. It's the same thing were people complain about bad DLC deals. They exsist because enough people don't care they're bad and still get them.


you mean how the 2ds boosted sales? wait...

Every revision gets those extra sales. They always get less each time. But to the company's POV, that's irrelavant. For us, the DS Lite is the best selling version of the DS. While the others did crap compared to it. But to Nintendo, that's still 153 million in total sold. Weather new people, and overlaped by OCD buyers. A sale is a sale. No matter how we think it is. If it makes the required profit, the product isn't a failure. It's just a stupid idea that can mess with peoples perceptions for future things they do. Like I can easily just not buy the next handheld intill 3 years in. If everyone thought that, sales of the system would be total crap till the 3rd revision.



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bonzobanana on 30 August 2014

Seems a poor business decision to me. I would of prefered a 3DS slim with an improved screen, thinner more attractive case and much better battery life. I guess if its a serious handheld upgrade with a huge peformance increase I may feel differently but I suspect it will be a small performance upgrade. It will likely be less powerful than Vita. I'll probably wait for a true next generation Nintendo handheld console.



oniyide on 30 August 2014
archer9234 said:
oniyide said:
archer9234 said:
oniyide said:
archer9234 said:
oniyide said:
IMHO, i dont think this is going to help. If someone wasnt interested in 3ds before extra ram and some ports of Wii games isnt going to change their mind. Especially with a handheld as that kind of stuff has NEVER been important before. I dont really know who Nintendo is trying to sell this too. Casuals who werent interested arent going to care all of a sudden, core gamers who have one already arent probably going to double dip. Hardcore ninty fans MIGHT buy this, but IMO i think Ninty is pushing the limit on this. You have to buy another version of something you already have to play the full library, its screwed either way, if they make a bunch of NEW 3ds games people are going to feel gyped. If they make a few then they are going ot wonder what the point was.

It has two things. One: It's to boost sales. Another 3 million helps Nintendo, like the 2DS. Two: the people that buy every version of Nintendo products.


one: boost sales? isnt the 3ds down YOY? this is going to help? I doubt that very much two: that number isnt as big as some people hope it is. and what kind of message is that to send anyway?

It does boosts sales. Even if it's small. People send that message to companies. That's why they do it. It's the same thing were people complain about bad DLC deals. They exsist because enough people don't care they're bad and still get them.


you mean how the 2ds boosted sales? wait...

Every revision gets those extra sales. They always get less each time. But to the company's POV, that's irrelavant. For us, the DS Lite is the best selling version of the DS. While the others did crap compared to it. But to Nintendo, that's 153 million in total sold. Weather new people, and overlaped by OCD buyers.

but how do we know people wouldnt have bought it even WITHOUT the revision. my thing is if a person didnt want a 3ds i dont see anything in this version that is really going to change there minds. And if you are a Ninty fan you already have it and how much are going to double or triple dip and for how long?



archer9234 on 30 August 2014
oniyide said:
archer9234 said:
oniyide said:
archer9234 said:
oniyide said:
archer9234 said:
oniyide said:
IMHO, i dont think this is going to help. If someone wasnt interested in 3ds before extra ram and some ports of Wii games isnt going to change their mind. Especially with a handheld as that kind of stuff has NEVER been important before. I dont really know who Nintendo is trying to sell this too. Casuals who werent interested arent going to care all of a sudden, core gamers who have one already arent probably going to double dip. Hardcore ninty fans MIGHT buy this, but IMO i think Ninty is pushing the limit on this. You have to buy another version of something you already have to play the full library, its screwed either way, if they make a bunch of NEW 3ds games people are going to feel gyped. If they make a few then they are going ot wonder what the point was.

It has two things. One: It's to boost sales. Another 3 million helps Nintendo, like the 2DS. Two: the people that buy every version of Nintendo products.


one: boost sales? isnt the 3ds down YOY? this is going to help? I doubt that very much two: that number isnt as big as some people hope it is. and what kind of message is that to send anyway?

It does boosts sales. Even if it's small. People send that message to companies. That's why they do it. It's the same thing were people complain about bad DLC deals. They exsist because enough people don't care they're bad and still get them.


you mean how the 2ds boosted sales? wait...

Every revision gets those extra sales. They always get less each time. But to the company's POV, that's irrelavant. For us, the DS Lite is the best selling version of the DS. While the others did crap compared to it. But to Nintendo, that's 153 million in total sold. Weather new people, and overlaped by OCD buyers.

but how do we know people wouldnt have bought it even WITHOUT the revision. my thing is if a person didnt want a 3ds i dont see anything in this version that is really going to change there minds. And if you are a Ninty fan you already have it and how much are going to double or triple dip and for how long?

That really depends on the person. But they do get the extra sales by the OCD people. Ofcourse it's not a lot. I agree with you on that. And I also think this is stupid, with possible future hardware that can go wrong with this mind set. If they keep doing this. But that's still that one extra 3DS sold to the same person. Who knows actually why Nintendo does what they do, honestly. Maybe they're OCD themselves and must make 4 revisions on every system they make.



tbone51 on 30 August 2014
oniyide said:
tbone51 said:
oniyide said:

For Japanese Reference...


im comparing 3ds sales...to 3ds sales. that kind of drop is not great its irrelevant what the others are doing. and its even worse when you consider how early it peaked. 

edit: if we are talking about big picture why are we talking JUST Japan. IMHO it seems a little odd that they are going so hard in a region where they are already doing decent to good. We havent even discussed the rest of the world where i imagine the impact would be even more neglible and that is where 3ds actually needs to do better.


Wat? it is revelant wat others are doing lol. So if a football team avgs 50points a game, then suddenly gets 30points 3-5 games in a row (but still are winning) its horrible right?

Im only talking about japan cuz it comes out there first, and we'll get answers soon. We'll talk about the West next year, you'll see how well N3DS does in japan first



oniyide on 30 August 2014
archer9234 said:
oniyide said:
archer9234 said:
oniyide said:
archer9234 said:
oniyide said:
archer9234 said:
oniyide said:
IMHO, i dont think this is going to help. If someone wasnt interested in 3ds before extra ram and some ports of Wii games isnt going to change their mind. Especially with a handheld as that kind of stuff has NEVER been important before. I dont really know who Nintendo is trying to sell this too. Casuals who werent interested arent going to care all of a sudden, core gamers who have one already arent probably going to double dip. Hardcore ninty fans MIGHT buy this, but IMO i think Ninty is pushing the limit on this. You have to buy another version of something you already have to play the full library, its screwed either way, if they make a bunch of NEW 3ds games people are going to feel gyped. If they make a few then they are going ot wonder what the point was.

It has two things. One: It's to boost sales. Another 3 million helps Nintendo, like the 2DS. Two: the people that buy every version of Nintendo products.


one: boost sales? isnt the 3ds down YOY? this is going to help? I doubt that very much two: that number isnt as big as some people hope it is. and what kind of message is that to send anyway?

It does boosts sales. Even if it's small. People send that message to companies. That's why they do it. It's the same thing were people complain about bad DLC deals. They exsist because enough people don't care they're bad and still get them.


you mean how the 2ds boosted sales? wait...

Every revision gets those extra sales. They always get less each time. But to the company's POV, that's irrelavant. For us, the DS Lite is the best selling version of the DS. While the others did crap compared to it. But to Nintendo, that's 153 million in total sold. Weather new people, and overlaped by OCD buyers.

but how do we know people wouldnt have bought it even WITHOUT the revision. my thing is if a person didnt want a 3ds i dont see anything in this version that is really going to change there minds. And if you are a Ninty fan you already have it and how much are going to double or triple dip and for how long?

That really depends on the person. But they do get the extra sales by the OCD people. Ofcourse it's not a lot. I agree with you on that. And I also think this is stupid, with possible future hardware that can go wrong with this mind set. If they keep doing this. But that's still that one extra 3DS sold to the same person. Who knows actually why Nintendo does what they do, honestly. Maybe they're OCD themselves and must make 4 revisions on every system they make.

I have to wonder if that extra sale from OCD people is enought to offset the cost of the newer hardware. maybe it is maybe it isnt, i hope its the former for their sake. i never had an issue with the number of revisions that what Ninty does with their handhelds. My issue is with the SPEED of the revisions, IMHO it smacks of desperation. I dont know any other gaming system that has done it this much with this speed, none that were successful anyway.