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Hoodieninja said:
Teeqoz said:

Where did I seem infuriated? Please quote my post were I seemed infuriated.

I already did.


PS: I suspect Hoodininja is an FW alt. Ignore him.

 

Seems infuriated to you? Mkay. Your posting pattern is sort of similar.



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Teeqoz said:
Jimbo1337 said:
Teeqoz said:
Jimbo1337 said:
Just read this:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/03/sony-steals-feature-from-your-playstation-3


"Anonymous had announced on 4 APril that it would attack Sony because the Japanese corporation decided to pursue legal action against George Hotz, who had discovered and then shared the "root key" of the PS3, which would mean that anyone could potentially play any game on it - including pirated ones."

 

Can you blame them for disabling that?

I don't blame them one bit for disabling that.  At the same time, you have to agree that it is messed up to currently own a product that suddenly becomes inferior without any sort of compensation from the corporation.  It was the corporations mistake for this vulnerability, not the consumers fault.


Sure it's Sonys fault for that vulnerability, but should they just have let it be? What choice did they have? Should they give compensation for removing a feature that allows you to play pirated software?

 

PS: I suspect Hoodininja is an FW alt. Ignore him.

Thank you for having a decent conversation unlike Hoodninja who thinks his opinion speaks for everyone. I don't think they should have let it be.  They definitely needed to remove that feature from the PS3 so as to prevent people from pirating software.  The one issue is that some people weren't using this feature to pirate games to begin with.  

Basically, one bad apple ruined the experience for everyone else.  I just feel Sony should have owned up to their mistake.  I understand that not a lot of people cared about the loss of being able to run GNU/Linux (I didn't even care myself).  But honestly, what does it take for people to be in uproar?  If this would have been the ability to play blu-ray movies, then people would be down Sony's throat.  

What I am trying to emphasize is that it is not specifically what they removed, but rather, removing a feature that was already in the hands of the consumer without any sort of compensation and no ownership of their mistake.  They simply turned the blame on the consumer.



Jimbo1337 said:
Teeqoz said:
Jimbo1337 said:
Teeqoz said:
Jimbo1337 said:
Just read this:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/03/sony-steals-feature-from-your-playstation-3


"Anonymous had announced on 4 APril that it would attack Sony because the Japanese corporation decided to pursue legal action against George Hotz, who had discovered and then shared the "root key" of the PS3, which would mean that anyone could potentially play any game on it - including pirated ones."

 

Can you blame them for disabling that?

I don't blame them one bit for disabling that.  At the same time, you have to agree that it is messed up to currently own a product that suddenly becomes inferior without any sort of compensation from the corporation.  It was the corporations mistake for this vulnerability, not the consumers fault.


Sure it's Sonys fault for that vulnerability, but should they just have let it be? What choice did they have? Should they give compensation for removing a feature that allows you to play pirated software?

 

PS: I suspect Hoodininja is an FW alt. Ignore him.

Thank you for having a decent conversation unlike Hoodninja who thinks his opinion speaks for everyone. I don't think they should have let it be.  They definitely needed to remove that feature from the PS3 so as to prevent people from pirating software.  The one issue is that some people weren't using this feature to pirate games to begin with.  

Basically, one bad apple ruined the experience for everyone else.  I just feel Sony should have owned up to their mistake.  I understand that not a lot of people cared about the loss of being able to run GNU/Linux (I didn't even care myself).  But honestly, what does it take for people to be in uproar?  If this would have been the ability to play blu-ray movies, then people would be down Sony's throat.  

What I am trying to emphasize is that it is not specifically what they removed, but rather, removing a feature that was already in the hands of the consumer without any sort of compensation and no ownership of their mistake.  They simply turned the blame on the consumer.


Again, nobody really gave a crap except for hackers and pirates. It's a fact.



Teeqoz said:
Hoodieninja said:
Teeqoz said:

Where did I seem infuriated? Please quote my post were I seemed infuriated.

I already did.


PS: I suspect Hoodininja is an FW alt. Ignore him.

 

Seems infuriated to you? Mkay. Your posting pattern is sort of similar.

How so? I'm just stating facts.



Thank you for having a decent conversation unlike Hoodninja who thinks his opinion speaks for everyone. I don't think they should have let it be.  They definitely needed to remove that feature from the PS3 so as to prevent people from pirating software.  The one issue is that some people weren't using this feature to pirate games to begin with.  

Basically, one bad apple ruined the experience for everyone else.  I just feel Sony should have owned up to their mistake.  I understand that not a lot of people cared about the loss of being able to run GNU/Linux (I didn't even care myself).  But honestly, what does it take for people to be in uproar?  If this would have been the ability to play blu-ray movies, then people would be down Sony's throat.  

What I am trying to emphasize is that it is not specifically what they removed, but rather, removing a feature that was already in the hands of the consumer without any sort of compensation and no ownership of their mistake.  They simply turned the blame on the consumer.


Again, nobody really gave a crap except for hackers and pirates. It's a fact.

I am not a hacker nor do I pirate anything.  Proof that you are not "just stating facts".

Why do I suddenly regret replying to someone like him....



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Jimbo1337 said:

Thank you for having a decent conversation unlike Hoodninja who thinks his opinion speaks for everyone. I don't think they should have let it be.  They definitely needed to remove that feature from the PS3 so as to prevent people from pirating software.  The one issue is that some people weren't using this feature to pirate games to begin with.  

Basically, one bad apple ruined the experience for everyone else.  I just feel Sony should have owned up to their mistake.  I understand that not a lot of people cared about the loss of being able to run GNU/Linux (I didn't even care myself).  But honestly, what does it take for people to be in uproar?  If this would have been the ability to play blu-ray movies, then people would be down Sony's throat.  

What I am trying to emphasize is that it is not specifically what they removed, but rather, removing a feature that was already in the hands of the consumer without any sort of compensation and no ownership of their mistake.  They simply turned the blame on the consumer.


Again, nobody really gave a crap except for hackers and pirates. It's a fact.

I am not a hacker nor do I pirate anything.  Proof that you are not "just stating facts".

Why do I suddenly regret replying to someone like him....


Another condescending post, not surprised.
Proof? Sorry didn't see a bunch of people complaining about these changes. Didn't see a huge uproar of people protesting against Sony.

If you're not a hacker nor did you pirate anything than why do you care so much?



Jimbo1337 said:
Teeqoz said:

Sure it's Sonys fault for that vulnerability, but should they just have let it be? What choice did they have? Should they give compensation for removing a feature that allows you to play pirated software?

 

PS: I suspect Hoodininja is an FW alt. Ignore him.

Thank you for having a decent conversation unlike Hoodninja who thinks his opinion speaks for everyone. I don't think they should have let it be.  They definitely needed to remove that feature from the PS3 so as to prevent people from pirating software.  The one issue is that some people weren't using this feature to pirate games to begin with.  

Basically, one bad apple ruined the experience for everyone else.  I just feel Sony should have owned up to their mistake.  I understand that not a lot of people cared about the loss of being able to run GNU/Linux (I didn't even care myself).  But honestly, what does it take for people to be in uproar?  If this would have been the ability to play blu-ray movies, then people would be down Sony's throat.  

What I am trying to emphasize is that it is not specifically what they removed, but rather, removing a feature that was already in the hands of the consumer without any sort of compensation and no ownership of their mistake.  They simply turned the blame on the consumer.


Byut it's one of the precautions they have to take. Sure not many were using it to pirate software, but they all had the possibility to do so. How do you sort the pirates from the non-pirates?

I understand it's a matter of principle, but as you pointed out, it was a little used feature. It happens with real world stuff as well. Even if you are a law-abiding citizen, you sometimes are affected by the hunt for criminals. In this case, the law-abiding "citizens" that were affected were kept to the bare minimum.

But all in all, they should have issued an official statement and an apology, but I don't blame them for the lawsuit of the guy who shared the PS3s root-key. That's a serious act of crime, and should not be tolerated. And that was why Anonymous hacked Sony. It wasn't because the removal of a feature, but the fact that they sued the guy who shared the root-key that enables people to potentially pirate games.



Teeqoz said:
Jimbo1337 said:
Teeqoz said:

Sure it's Sonys fault for that vulnerability, but should they just have let it be? What choice did they have? Should they give compensation for removing a feature that allows you to play pirated software?

 

PS: I suspect Hoodininja is an FW alt. Ignore him.

Thank you for having a decent conversation unlike Hoodninja who thinks his opinion speaks for everyone. I don't think they should have let it be.  They definitely needed to remove that feature from the PS3 so as to prevent people from pirating software.  The one issue is that some people weren't using this feature to pirate games to begin with.  

Basically, one bad apple ruined the experience for everyone else.  I just feel Sony should have owned up to their mistake.  I understand that not a lot of people cared about the loss of being able to run GNU/Linux (I didn't even care myself).  But honestly, what does it take for people to be in uproar?  If this would have been the ability to play blu-ray movies, then people would be down Sony's throat.  

What I am trying to emphasize is that it is not specifically what they removed, but rather, removing a feature that was already in the hands of the consumer without any sort of compensation and no ownership of their mistake.  They simply turned the blame on the consumer.


Byut it's one of the precautions they have to take. Sure not many were using it to pirate software, but they all had the possibility to do so. How do you sort the pirates from the non-pirates?

I understand it's a matter of principle, but as you pointed out, it was a little used feature. It happens with real world stuff as well. Even if you are a law-abiding citizen, you sometimes are affected by the hunt for criminals. In this case, the law-abiding "citizens" that were affected were kept to the bare minimum.

But all in all, they should have issued an official statement and an apology, but I don't blame them for the lawsuit of the guy who shared the PS3s root-key. That's a serious act of crime, and should not be tolerated. And that was why Anonymous hacked Sony. It wasn't because the removal of a feature, but the fact that they sued the guy who shared the root-key that enables people to potentially pirate games.

I can agree with your post.  Thank you for actually having knowledge on the matter and saying something intelligent.



Hoodieninja said:
Jimbo1337 said:

I am not a hacker nor do I pirate anything.  Proof that you are not "just stating facts".

Why do I suddenly regret replying to someone like him....


Another condescending post, not surprised.
Proof? Sorry didn't see a bunch of people complaining about these changes. Didn't see a huge uproar of people protesting against Sony.

If you're not a hacker nor did you pirate anything than why do you care so much?

 

somebody has been living under a rock.

You've said this to him earlier, yet you're accusing him of being condescending? Smh.


Jimbo1337 said:
Teeqoz said:
Jimbo1337 said:
Teeqoz said:

Sure it's Sonys fault for that vulnerability, but should they just have let it be? What choice did they have? Should they give compensation for removing a feature that allows you to play pirated software?

 

PS: I suspect Hoodininja is an FW alt. Ignore him.

Thank you for having a decent conversation unlike Hoodninja who thinks his opinion speaks for everyone. I don't think they should have let it be.  They definitely needed to remove that feature from the PS3 so as to prevent people from pirating software.  The one issue is that some people weren't using this feature to pirate games to begin with.  

Basically, one bad apple ruined the experience for everyone else.  I just feel Sony should have owned up to their mistake.  I understand that not a lot of people cared about the loss of being able to run GNU/Linux (I didn't even care myself).  But honestly, what does it take for people to be in uproar?  If this would have been the ability to play blu-ray movies, then people would be down Sony's throat.  

What I am trying to emphasize is that it is not specifically what they removed, but rather, removing a feature that was already in the hands of the consumer without any sort of compensation and no ownership of their mistake.  They simply turned the blame on the consumer.


Byut it's one of the precautions they have to take. Sure not many were using it to pirate software, but they all had the possibility to do so. How do you sort the pirates from the non-pirates?

I understand it's a matter of principle, but as you pointed out, it was a little used feature. It happens with real world stuff as well. Even if you are a law-abiding citizen, you sometimes are affected by the hunt for criminals. In this case, the law-abiding "citizens" that were affected were kept to the bare minimum.

But all in all, they should have issued an official statement and an apology, but I don't blame them for the lawsuit of the guy who shared the PS3s root-key. That's a serious act of crime, and should not be tolerated. And that was why Anonymous hacked Sony. It wasn't because the removal of a feature, but the fact that they sued the guy who shared the root-key that enables people to potentially pirate games.

I can agree with your post.  Thank you for actually having knowledge on the matter and saying something intelligent.

you think you're own posts are intelligent? lol.