Well, they aren't going to sell their TVs if that's the case! :S

Steam seems to be just fine, for all the digital naysayers. I can buy games and play them, I can find out about indie games and give them a test drive, it works well. People didn't like the idea of MP3s back in the day either.

What % of the 30% doesn't own a console? I am guessing alot of them are either retired pensioners/unemployed thus are hardly in the market for a regular console anyway.

Wow, M$ proposes that this will be the future of gaming and the world tears them a new one.

Now, Sony admits this is their plan too and all people can say is "Darn, I will quit gaming then"?

Like many others, I have been saying for months that this is the obvious future of gaming and that Sony was going to go this route like everyone else. This is why they don't want EA Access. They want to force you to use PS+ to get your games.

M$ and Sony are out for themselves, and this is just a little proof that Sony isn't the angel that so many of their blind faithful always believe.

All companies are out for themselves. ALL OF THEM.

if this happens i will not buy more consoles.

If something like this is going to happen, I'll stay with old consoles, PC games and emulators.

You don't own the game though, you own the disc itself. Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo/Publisher can still take away your rights to play the game, if not the disc, if they so wish. It doesn't happen, but it is possible.

And the idea that physical media lasts longer than digital is laughable. Unless you treat your physical media insanely well and never use it, it will degrade over time. Just by playing the game you risk scratching up the disc. On digital media, all of it is linked to the cloud, and you can just redownload it if something terrible happens and your HDD breaks. Of course, with the rise of SSDs, drive failure may be a thing of the past. My SSD will store all my games and take all kinds of physical damage without losing any information. Can't say that about discs. When I buy digital, I gain access to a vastly superior storage format, that allows me to not have to change discs and not worry about damage, not to mention download on multiple consoles. Just because you don't think it's "ownership" doesn't mean that the games aren't in my possession for me to enjoy whenever I want.

Steams to consoles is not apples or oranges at all -_-. Were you around when PC gamers made a huge fuss over Steam taking away their ownership rights, abd making it impossible for people with bad internet to use the service? They used the same arguments as you, abd now most of them have happily bought into the system.

You seem to think the console manufacturers will completely force people to go digital only. They won't. It'll be a slow transition, where more and more people choose digital due to the discounts and convenience. Over the last generation alone digital game purchases have grown exponentially, and are continuing to grow, whether or not you like it. If they do grow as they have been, maybe in the future, two or so generations from now, digital-only will be a possibility. That is ample time for more people to get better internet as well, seeing as how fast high speed internet is spreading due to the actions of companies like Google.

I do not think that streaming or digital will completely wipe out the physical medium so as long as that exists and I don't need a mandatory internet connection for my console, it's fine with me.

You're right on that stuff. But come on with the Discs dying stuff. Yes, if you have a console that has a defective lens. It breaks the disc. People aren't gonna keep that system. If you maintain basic care. Meaning no grabing the bottom, or leaving your disc out. Pressed discs can last 100 years. Burnt no. The layers fail over time. I have CD's that are 30+ years old now. I've ripped them to iTunes when needed. SDD aren't perfect. I've had some corrupt and had to reformat. Trust me, we'll reach that point of having to download 4TB of games again. You'll be cursing that moment. Not matter how fast your speed is. Not too long ago, I changed my PS4 HDD to 1TB. I had to reinstall all my games. I just have 5. Took only 30 mins, because I have discs. That would of taken 2 days of downloading.

I honestly just want both sides, digital/phsyical to survive with each other. That's all. And me playing my systems when my net dies is better than getting competlly screwed. My net died 7 times within 4 hours this morning. And two time while typing this comment. That's the part I don't want to deal with. And also were my stuff can run. When I rip my own DVD/CD/BD I can put them on any device as so I please. At what Bitrate I want it at etc. I want that control rather then give it to companies. People will be totally screwed with region locking in a digital enviroment. Apple is a perfect example of some BS they can pull: I've had a screw up with my credit card once. Where they withdrew the money for a app. My CC haulted it. And I then owed Apple 5$. In return, I couldn't update apps or download anything. Till that was cleared. But my DVD's/CD/BD rips all worked fine since nothing was tied to my itunes account. This had happened while I was going to work. I would of been without any form of media for that day out.

if that happens on ps5 my last console will be ps4.

i don´t like pay and buy digital games. i prefer to have my games on physical retail with box and disc.