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Solid-Stark on 19 August 2014
overman1 said:
Solid-Stark said:

ioi has already released a statement that VG's figures are pretty accurate with confirmed numbers in major countries in Europe.
If it's under-tracked there, it won't be by much. So likely US and Europe are a near tie or perhaps US on top by a narrow margin.
These missing sales are coming from "Others" which is Asia, Middle East, and Africa.

Edit: As of Sony's announcement Europe is likely 3.8m with Americas in the 3.9m range.

VGChartz is undertracking PS4 by 50k+ in Germany alone. A tier one country....

yeah, by undertracked by "not much"....

VG has PS4 numbers at 3.45m as of Aug 2. I generously put it as 3.8m for the following week+ . My numbers serve as a response to OP who is extrapolating a question of both VG and NPD+Other numbers. If my numbers don't satisfy then go ahead and extend one regions inaccuracy to make things none the better and to be in favor.



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mizorefan on 19 August 2014

It's obvious the console with the best version of Fifa will be the console with the major sales in Europe.



GoldenGamer on 19 August 2014

Europe is a continent.USA is a country.



overman1 on 19 August 2014
GoldenGamer said:
Europe is a continent.USA is a country.


The USA alone amounts for a very heavy chunk of console sales....



overman1 on 19 August 2014
Solid-Stark said:
overman1 said:
Solid-Stark said:

ioi has already released a statement that VG's figures are pretty accurate with confirmed numbers in major countries in Europe.
If it's under-tracked there, it won't be by much. So likely US and Europe are a near tie or perhaps US on top by a narrow margin.
These missing sales are coming from "Others" which is Asia, Middle East, and Africa.

Edit: As of Sony's announcement Europe is likely 3.8m with Americas in the 3.9m range.

VGChartz is undertracking PS4 by 50k+ in Germany alone. A tier one country....

yeah, by undertracked by "not much"....

VG has PS4 numbers at 3.45m as of Aug 2. I generously put it as 3.8m for the following week+ . My numbers serve as a response to OP who is extrapolating a question of both VG and NPD+Other numbers. If my numbers don't satisfy then go ahead and extend one regions inaccuracy to make things none the better and to be in favor.

are you the one who changes the numbers on the frontpage?



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Solid-Stark on 19 August 2014
overman1 said:
Solid-Stark said:
overman1 said:
Solid-Stark said:

ioi has already released a statement that VG's figures are pretty accurate with confirmed numbers in major countries in Europe.
If it's under-tracked there, it won't be by much. So likely US and Europe are a near tie or perhaps US on top by a narrow margin.
These missing sales are coming from "Others" which is Asia, Middle East, and Africa.

Edit: As of Sony's announcement Europe is likely 3.8m with Americas in the 3.9m range.

VGChartz is undertracking PS4 by 50k+ in Germany alone. A tier one country....

yeah, by undertracked by "not much"....

VG has PS4 numbers at 3.45m as of Aug 2. I generously put it as 3.8m for the following week+ . My numbers serve as a response to OP who is extrapolating a question of both VG and NPD+Other numbers. If my numbers don't satisfy then go ahead and extend one regions inaccuracy to make things none the better and to be in favor.

are you the one who changes the numbers on the frontpage?

Not sure if serious. Your comment was on me saying numbers weren't much undertracked for Europe even though I offered a likely figure.

VG is currently off by less than 8% assuming the 3.8m figure is correct, and seems to be in the ball park. Interesting that you make this fuss due to one country being under tracked but fail to mention that the PS4 is currently overtracked in the U.S. by 50k. Point of the matter is no need to shit on the numbers provided by this site for now as we all know they will work on appropriate adjustments for all regions necessary that are yet to be clear. I hope you can see that it is silly to acknowledge it's undertracked in one country and therefore assume in all other major territories in addition to ignoring where it's currently overtracked.

Don't worry numbers will be sorted out and it will say >10m in the front page in the end.



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Troll_Whisperer on 19 August 2014

Every PlayStation home and handheld console has sold the most in Europe and I think PS4 will be no exception

Also, as I posted in another thread:

We know PS4 is 40,000 units undertracked in Germany as of the end of June, let's say 50,000 as of now.

Germany represents 15.75% of PS4 sales in Europe, according to VGC.

Extrapolate those numbers to get a hypothetical total, and you get 320,000 units undertracked in Europe. Despite what ioi says, I'm sure a good chunk of missing sales come from Europe.



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overman1 on 20 August 2014
Solid-Stark said:
overman1 said:
Solid-Stark said:
overman1 said:
Solid-Stark said:

ioi has already released a statement that VG's figures are pretty accurate with confirmed numbers in major countries in Europe.
If it's under-tracked there, it won't be by much. So likely US and Europe are a near tie or perhaps US on top by a narrow margin.
These missing sales are coming from "Others" which is Asia, Middle East, and Africa.

Edit: As of Sony's announcement Europe is likely 3.8m with Americas in the 3.9m range.

VGChartz is undertracking PS4 by 50k+ in Germany alone. A tier one country....

yeah, by undertracked by "not much"....

VG has PS4 numbers at 3.45m as of Aug 2. I generously put it as 3.8m for the following week+ . My numbers serve as a response to OP who is extrapolating a question of both VG and NPD+Other numbers. If my numbers don't satisfy then go ahead and extend one regions inaccuracy to make things none the better and to be in favor.

are you the one who changes the numbers on the frontpage?

Not sure if serious. Your comment was on me saying numbers weren't much undertracked for Europe even though I offered a likely figure.

VG is currently off by less than 8% assuming the 3.8m figure is correct, and seems to be in the ball park. Interesting that you make this fuss due to one country being under tracked but fail to mention that the PS4 is currently overtracked in the U.S. by 50k. Point of the matter is no need to shit on the numbers provided by this site for now as we all know they will work on appropriate adjustments for all regions necessary that are yet to be clear. I hope you can see that it is silly to acknowledge it's undertracked in one country and therefore assume in all other major territories in addition to ignoring where it's currently overtracked.

Don't worry numbers will be sorted out and it will say >10m in the front page in the end.

IDk you made it sound like you help with the site. wording mistake.

Anyway, I still strongly believe the PS4 is untracked in Europe severely. Since there isnt any tracker like NPD to keep VGChartzs in check in Europe. IT is very fair to assume their numbers are very wrong there as well. 



justiceiro on 20 August 2014
GoldenGamer said:
Europe is a continent.USA is a country.


Ac ountry that alone hold 68% of all world money.



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Solid-Stark on 20 August 2014
overman1 said:
Solid-Stark said:
overman1 said:
Solid-Stark said:
overman1 said:
Solid-Stark said:

ioi has already released a statement that VG's figures are pretty accurate with confirmed numbers in major countries in Europe.
If it's under-tracked there, it won't be by much. So likely US and Europe are a near tie or perhaps US on top by a narrow margin.
These missing sales are coming from "Others" which is Asia, Middle East, and Africa.

Edit: As of Sony's announcement Europe is likely 3.8m with Americas in the 3.9m range.

VGChartz is undertracking PS4 by 50k+ in Germany alone. A tier one country....

yeah, by undertracked by "not much"....

VG has PS4 numbers at 3.45m as of Aug 2. I generously put it as 3.8m for the following week+ . My numbers serve as a response to OP who is extrapolating a question of both VG and NPD+Other numbers. If my numbers don't satisfy then go ahead and extend one regions inaccuracy to make things none the better and to be in favor.

are you the one who changes the numbers on the frontpage?

Not sure if serious. Your comment was on me saying numbers weren't much undertracked for Europe even though I offered a likely figure.

VG is currently off by less than 8% assuming the 3.8m figure is correct, and seems to be in the ball park. Interesting that you make this fuss due to one country being under tracked but fail to mention that the PS4 is currently overtracked in the U.S. by 50k. Point of the matter is no need to shit on the numbers provided by this site for now as we all know they will work on appropriate adjustments for all regions necessary that are yet to be clear. I hope you can see that it is silly to acknowledge it's undertracked in one country and therefore assume in all other major territories in addition to ignoring where it's currently overtracked.

Don't worry numbers will be sorted out and it will say >10m in the front page in the end.

IDk you made it sound like you help with the site. wording mistake.

Anyway, I still strongly believe the PS4 is untracked in Europe severely. Since there isnt any tracker like NPD to keep VGChartzs in check in Europe. IT is very fair to assume their numbers are very wrong there as well. 

I apologize for the confusion. If you look at Troll Whisperer's post above, he draws the same conjecture for Europe, which again gives a 3.8m range figure. The problem is that it's only approximately half of the missing sales, with some 300k-400k still missing. Which is what I was getting at. Again apologies for the confusion.



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