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Richard_Feynman on 06 August 2014
Neodegenerate said:

I would say you spun the topic when your initial post was (paraphrased): There are no games coming out, then responded to the list of dozens of games coming out by crossing out all the games that you think shouldn't count because you aren't interested in them.

 

Also, funny to me that the guy who was getting on me for saying you were whining is now using the term himself (albeit in quotes).


Thanks for noticing :)



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IkePoR on 06 August 2014
Neodegenerate said:

Also, funny to me that the guy who was getting on me for saying you were whining is now using the term himself (albeit in quotes).

Because... English?

quo·ta·tion

ˌkwōˈtāSHən
noun
plural noun: quotations
  1. 1.
    a group of words taken from a text or speech and repeated by someone other than the original author or speaker.


"You should be banned. Youre clearly flaming the president and even his brother who you know nothing about. Dont be such a partisan hack"

Normchacho on 06 August 2014

Haha so it's not "when are the games coming" It's "when are the games I want coming?"

Stop being such a baby.



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Neodegenerate on 06 August 2014
IkePoR said:
Neodegenerate said:

Also, funny to me that the guy who was getting on me for saying you were whining is now using the term himself (albeit in quotes).

Because... English?

quo·ta·tion

ˌkwōˈtāSHən
noun
plural noun: quotations
  1. 1.
    a group of words taken from a text or speech and repeated by someone other than the original author or speaker.


In that case you didn't provide your sources correctly :p



Angelv577 on 06 August 2014

Hilarious, someone is complaining about lack of games and I'm getting crazy choosing which games to buy.



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Madword on 06 August 2014
Conegamer said:
vivster said:

Yeah I guess AC:U, Far Cry 4, DA:I, COD:AW, Bayonetta 2, Hyrule Warriors are nothing.

Great lineup for a launch year and it's going to be even better next year.

Pretty much.

Totally agree..

Cant believe some of the complaints i've seen on the internet. According to stats the ownership of games is about 2-3 games per console. I have over 14 games (probably around 20) and most of those are disk based. There is no lack of games, yes would love some of those big meaty releases (uncharted, Fallout etc)... but there are lots of games out there. If you limit yourself to only the big massive games, then really no one to blame... By the end of the year the list will grow bigger... but even then there will be people complaining there are no games to play.

If you are really bored of no games, then I think there should be no complaints from September onwards.



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RubberWhistleHistle on 06 August 2014
Richard_Feynman said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:

i didnt mean to insult you personally, its just the attitude that you have about it isnt going to do this industry any good. its not you i have a problem with, its just the mentality. with your mentality, the xbox one would have really been.. the xbone. truly. i dont see how i m making a strawman. this whole thread you have been saying gamers are lucky, we should be thankful for the way things are going, the internet is a godsend for gaming and has done nothing but make it better, etc. am i wrong for thinking you believe all this stuff, or did you just leave out a bunch of  crucial points?


Yes, you certainly misunderstood what I meant by straw man argument.

A straw man argument is where you pretend that your opponent is of a certain disposition when in fact he is not. You did this in a terrible way right there in order to make me the bad guy.

Here are the facts:

- I was never in favour of X1's DRM. I laughed at it and thought it was terrible.

- I never said (anywhere) that I was in favour of DRM. Nor did I imply it.

 

Ok?

Not only that, but there is no DRM. So what's the big deal? If you want to wrap your head in conspiracy theories about the evil gaming corporations then please don't drag me into it. As the facts stand right now, there is no DRM.

But there's more to it than that. Way more. Signing in online does not in and of itself mean that you don't own the game. Ownership is the real issue here. Explicitly NOT being online or any other such nonsense. And that whole issue has passed hasn't it? Is there any reason to believe it's coming back? No. Not for the foreseeable future. And even if it does, then there will most certainly be offerings without it.

If you bring Steam's DRM into this then I really can't discuss the issue any further. There really is no issue with Steam's DRM. It works fine and no-one is complaining. Because campaigning for the term DRM to be an evil one is just silly. I own my Steam games and I can play offline. No problem. I'll be able to do so indefinitely. Case closed.


MORE IMPORTANTLY than all of this is

again

I said nothing about DRM

DRM doesn't (in the way you imply) exist

Nor does it look like it will

 

So I just have no sympathy for you riling up people and being overly dramatic about something which is a non-issue. I WOULD NOT have discussed this point if that was the point of your thread.

 

BUT

 

The point of your thread was that there are virtually no good games for the consoles yet - or in their first year - or whatever.

 

With that point I explicitly disagree and I've made my arguments clear.


I do believe that's the end of it. I hope you understand everything I'm saying, because I'm attempting to be as crystal clear as I can.

Good day sir.

i read your post twice to make sure i understood everything youre saying. my response is going to be short and clear:

one thing that you have a huge problem with is complaining. thats the mentality that i was attacking, gamers do need to complain so these developers stop trying to fuck our asses. thats why i made that leap into saying, if people had that MENTALITY, then there really would be an xbone. see, it really doesnt matter if you mentioned DRM or not, the things you were saying still directly applied to that situation. maybe next time somebody is complaining about something and you dont agree, yoiu should use different language so people dont confuse what youre saying about a specific situation to a general mentality that you have about things.



RubberWhistleHistle on 06 August 2014
Angelv577 said:
Hilarious, someone is complaining about lack of games and I'm getting crazy choosing which games to buy.


well.. judging from your avatar.. you seem really really easily pleased so.. more power to you. it doesnt surprise me that you have no complaints.



Angelv577 on 06 August 2014
RubberWhistleHistle said:
Angelv577 said:
Hilarious, someone is complaining about lack of games and I'm getting crazy choosing which games to buy.


well.. judging from your avatar.. you seem really really easily pleased so.. more power to you. it doesnt surprise me that you have no complaints.

I have this avatar because I like the box art, that doesn't mean I own the game.  I tried the demo and didn't like it. 



RubberWhistleHistle on 06 August 2014
Shadow1980 said:
Is this your first time early-adopting? Assuming you really are 25, then you may or may not have gotten your first job right around the time the seventh generation began. So, what was the first system you bought with your own money, and when? I ask because it's important in establishing a reference frame for your experience and perspective, or lack thereof.

In any case, as others pointed out, this supposed drought is nothing new. Like most things gamers have been complaining about since the PS4 and XBO debuted, this has happened before and will happen again. The situation was no different for the PS1, PS2, PS3, Xbox, 360, N64, GameCube, Wii, and Dreamcast, all systems I've bought since getting my first job back in the late 90s.

Also, your definition of "shovelware" is obscenely broad and includes: Anything that's an annualized series (e.g., COD, Assassin's Creed, sports games); localizations of Japanese games that were not released simultaneously in both the West and Japan; anything third-party that's not big-budget AAA; ports that were delayed due to timed exclusivity; any and all re-releases or enhanced remakes; indie games; games based on licensed properties (e.g., Shadow of Mordor). Also, there's many games that are arbitrarily crossed off as "shovelware." On what grounds do you label Alien: Isolation, The Crew, or The Evil Within as shovelware? If you're going to only include the tippy-top of the AAA-list, then every system looks bad in its first year.

The problem isn't lack of games. The problem is lack of games that interest you personally. Anything else is dismissed as "shovelware." But as I've said in other threads on this topic, a console is a long-term investment. Nobody with reasonable expectations buys a console hoping to play literally dozens of top-shelf games in the first few months. You buy a console hoping to play dozens of top-shelf games over its multi-year life cycle (in fact, based on attach rate data, the average gamer buys between 8-12 games for any given system). Between my PS4 and Wii U I have a dozen games (not counting indies and Virtual Console games), and I'm more than satisfied with what I have. By year's end, I hope to add at least another another dozen to that total. By the end of next year I may have 30 or more eighth-gen games. There's more than enough to choose from, and anyone who says otherwise is picky to a fault.

the first console i bought with my own money was.. the wii u. but its really not about what i bought with my own money. its about what i have experienced over the course of my life.

i have been an owner of all seventh gen consoles from the start. sixth gen, the gc and ps2 tore it up pretty quickly. 64 had an abnormally low amount of games, but there were other factors that contributed to that. ps1 got the ball rolling pretty quick. snes, genesis had games coming out the ass immediately as well. i really dont see how whats going on right now is the same as what happened with older consoles. 

also, for your information, i have probably like 6000 video games in my closet. i know a shit ton about the history of all the major consoles and, really, since the super nintendo started, ive played all of them as they were released. (i had older brothers 6 and 10 years older than me so i was fortunate enough to start out with actraiser for snes as my very first video game.)