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Nicklesbe on 15 August 2014
padib said:
There has been a lot of attitude changes since day 1.

I will begin.

TheProf suddenly considers Outlaw to be town after I played my skill. If my points on why Outlaw was town on day 1 were so bad, then why in the world would using my skill to protect him validate my points?? I believe theprof is mafia.

Sparks has gotten very careful day 2. Though it's a sparks meta I prefer, it makes me very uneasy with his change in play. I sense a facade. I sense mafia.

Cone doctor is a broken setup, as prof argued. I believe Cone is mafia.

RCT got mixed up with his fakeclaim. I believe he is mafia.

Wright, Khan and noname are worryingly quiet. I sense mafia. (Wright, this is your cue to pipe up about some town brainstorming, for example what is your opinion on the nightaction scenarios presented by prof and hylian)

Nickles' end of day switch off Sparks and his mention that he would have changed it anyways made me feel very uneasy. I sense piggybacking and I sense mafia.

My only town reads this far are Smeags, Hylian, Outlaw, Myself and the sacrificed Spurge.

Null reads are Trucks and WhiteEagle.

I believe there are two mafia factions and that is why town is 1) overpowered and 2) all over the place. (Mafia are not coordinated and seem to be accusing each other.)


I thought I made it clear, apparently not so I'll say it again. I'm not going to make a serious vote on someone without a strong case/good reason. I thought I had a good read on you all game. I trust strongly that you are town. There are only 2 reasons I can think of why someone would push so hard for a vote during the 11th hour out of nowhere and without a strong case like you did with sparks. 1. They are mafia and they are pushing for a last minute  coup d'état. or 2. They are town, aren't serious and fishing for reactions. It's the most stressful time of the day and probably the best opportunity to catch a slip. When I put my vote on sparks my vote would have been the one to push it over the top, put him in real danger and get real and valuable reactions from everyone. Something at the time I thought you wanted. I leave for a bit to shower and some food and see that after we got those reactions the first thing you did was put your vote back on Outlaw. Big fucking surprise ¡ So you tell me, was I wrong about you? Did I read you wrong? If so and you want to make a real case for sparks then please do and take the time to put the evidence together so there is a strong case and time to seriously consider that evidence. Not that last second kind of move that tries to force everyone's hand.

So no I wasn't serious about the vote on sparks just as I believed you weren't either. So if you want to find me suspicious for backing your play and being honest about it fine, but I'm not sorry for it. I know I at least got valuable reactions and reads on people. I would have much rather voted for RCT since he had the strongest case against him. Those that voted for Outlaw at that point were very suspicious because they had a very weak case for doing so and seemed to be trying to protect RCT at the time.   We could have spent those last few hours making a stronger case for RCT. We had the votes for it and we could have gotten one or two more. If we had we might have a dead mafia right now and possibly could have even saved spurg. Instead you use your ability and changed the dynamic completely and gave those that voted for Outlaw their only real reason to do so. Not only that but it convinced others to take their vote off RCT. I don't regret you using that ability. I think it worked out for the best. Now I and everyone should know you are town and that you should be trusted and not undermined and we mitigated loss as best we could. In my book confirming town that alive > confirming town dead. Also everyone that doubted you just had their reasons and accusations evaporate with that move. So from now on anytime tries to undermine you or doubt you that just casts more suspicion on them. So again I'm not sorry for trusting you, I'm not sorry for backing what seemed like an obvious play for reactions from you, and I'm not sorry for being honest about it.



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TruckOSaurus on 15 August 2014
Wright said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Thoughts, impressions, observations. You can start by telling us where you stand on RCT? What do you think on Cone's roleclaim in light of the information we already know?

And most of all, I'd like you to explain what you meant with this post: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6586082


I don't feel an evil vibe from RCT, but I am not so sure he was the intended target yesterday. I don't have proof to back it up, though.

 

And that post is evidence. I can't explain you what it is now, because I'm waiting to see what Khan does. Depending on the outcome, he can be a trustworthy townie or the serial killer.

When you say "wait to see what Khan does" do you mean toDay or over the course of the game?



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theprof00 on 15 August 2014

Unless cone is lying, of course. Padib was a terrible choice for protection. Am I remembering correctly that padib didnt trust cone or am I wrong?



Wright on 15 August 2014
TruckOSaurus said:

When you say "wait to see what Khan does" do you mean toDay or over the course of the game?


Only today; but that doesn't mean he won't be able to do it another day, if the circumstances are favorables.



Conegamer on 15 August 2014
theprof00 said:
Hmm there goes that theory.
sorry guys that ive been a little pushy in the last page or so. I had an overarching theory and have been questioning all the little puzzle pieces and they were all falling in together.
from the multiple vests
to the thief
to the interactions
to the impossible protection setup

Basically, my theory was that when rct claimed bulletproof yesterday, he was actually referring to another protective source, say, a doctor.
then today he loses it and sparks says its odd for mafia to target him instead of maybe a different vest target. My assumption this far was that sparks and rct schemes during the night to work out this bulletproof claim. Rct would claim to have lost the protection, leaving the opportunity to someone having stolen it. Rct confirms that he was never informed of being attacked. The stone being stolen was one of the only three discussions sparks took part in yesterday, and if you read the day under the assumption that sparks took it, his posts actually start making sense.
this wpuld give rct town cred as he was possibly attacked by a mafia, and give sparks a fake role to claim..

But then the whole problem came in about overprotected town with an unsolvable combo of doc bodyguard and then vest too. Plus, the thief theory was a little complicated. Instead, if cone is actually a mafia doctor, and so was sparks and rct, cone could have protected rct last night, and had the ability to make ot look like spark had a vest as well. This would explain things a lot better and was a lot simpler.

The only problem is why wpuld mafia have a doc. The two answers are vigilante or serial killer or both. However we only have one confirmed attack last night. The answer wpuld have to be that a serial killer or vig targeted rct while he was protected.

But now that we know cone protected padib, that part kin of falls apart.

Some good points. Is it not possible that someone decided to target padib, however? Then surely this would still be true. 

Similarly I'm telling the truth; why would I choose padib of all people if I was lying? It's just how I saw it yesterday, perhaps it wasn't the best choice in the end but it's the one I made when the decision came.



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

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theprof00 on 15 August 2014

@wright
but do what? Suspect someone? Say something? Perform an action?



Wright on 15 August 2014
theprof00 said:
@wright
but do what? Suspect someone? Say something? Perform an action?


I think that's pretty obvious, just check my original comment on which Truck called me on.



theprof00 on 15 August 2014

@padib
its actually not a bad list you have there. I trust all the people you have in the trusted list too.
I also noticed the change in sparks playstyle.
I also done trust cone
I also dont trust rct
trucks and white eagle are also gambles to me.
khan I distrust
noname I cant tell, but could also be mafia

However im going to disagree on wright and nickels. I trust both of them.
I believe those six hold the majority of the mafia. My list is
sparks
cone
rct
trucks
noname
white eagle

From most crummy to least



theprof00 on 15 August 2014

Oh and throw Kahn in there too right above trucks.

@wright
oh ok.



TruckOSaurus on 15 August 2014

I guess I will launch into my own overarching theory since discussion might have moved on when I come back on Sunday.

My theory is that yes town has all those protective roles but that on the other hand the Mafia have a role cop (which would be Wright) and either a role thief or role killer (i.e. a way to cut our power down as the Days pass. In that way the unkillable combos we seem to have can be neutralized.



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