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Forums - Sports Discussion - The NFL Thread 2014: New England Patriots Win Super Bowl XLIX

 

Who will win the Super Bowl?

Who cares? 41 36.61%
 
That AFC team. 29 25.89%
 
That NFC team. 5 4.46%
 
Hahaha, not the Packers! 25 22.32%
 
See Results. 9 8.04%
 
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mornelithe said:
thismeintiel said:
mornelithe said:

 Only to you, and thankfully, your opinion (and it's just opinion) means 0, as in the amount of SB victories the Seahawks have, since HGH testing was introduced.

Please.  Their legacy is tainted by quite a bit more than just him and a few posters on the internet.  Of course the most damning evidence that he forgot to mention was Brady's own words when if he cheats.  "I don't believe so."  Which already tells you right there he's playing some mental gymnatics to make what he and his team do seem okay in his mind.  But, I guess all that matters is that, in the end, the Patriots* did win the SB.

Of course, like any diehard fandom of any company/team, those who support them will find any way to make what they do seem right, even if they know it was wrong.  WE see the same thing on this site.  The most largest example of late is when all of those XBox fans who were 100% with the anti-consumer BS MS was going to pull.

Yeah, don't bother writing long things, I'm not reading it.  Your opinion is irrelevant.  As Ryan said, whine away.  As Cartman said, 'Tears of unfathomable sadness, they're so delicious.'

Nice...retort?  Basically shoved your fingers in your ears and said, "Nah, nah, nah.  I'm not listening."  That's ok.  I'll remember to avoid your posts.



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mornelithe said:
platformmaster918 said:
MTZehvor said:
 

"Until 2007?" Let's keep in mind here that the act of video taping from the location that they were video taping from didn't even become illegal until 2006 anyway; meaning that at best, you could convict the Patriots of cheating during the 2006 season and 1 quarter of the first game of the 2007 season. The only reason this is considered such a big deal is because the Boston Herald published an article claiming that the Patriots had taped the Rams' defensive walkthroughs before the 2001 Super Bowl, which turned out to be false and was retracted by the Herald later on. So as far as Spygate goes, you have evidence of video taping from a certain location which wasn't even illegal until after the Patriots won the last of their 3 Super Bowls. Congratulations; at best, you've shown that the Patriots' 2006 AFC Championship run might be suspicious and literally nothing else.

As for the footballs being deflated, two things. First off, 10 out of the 11 deflated footballs weren't even significantly below the 12.5 lower limit; meaning that while Belichick's explanation may not hold true if the balls were 2 PSI below the legal limit, it may very well hold true for the lower amount that they were (whatever that was, we still have no details). Beyond all that, though, the referees didn't even log the football PSI before the game; meaning that there's no official record that the footballs were even in the legal range to begin with.

Basically, anyone attempting to pin anything on New England for Deflategate has nothing but speculation to go on at best at this point. If you're going to whine about cheating; at least wait until the official findings are published.

except it was illegal because the NFL fined them and took away a draft pick.  What did they punish them for nothing lol.  Hell even Bob Ryan a Boston sports writer who is naturally more biased towards the Patriots acknowledges Spygate and of course the original legacy tainter the tuck rule play which didn't even apply since Brady had his hand back on the ball before the fumble occured.  Forever tainted in any objective person's mind.  They're the White Sox of our generation.

My god, this is almost too perfect:

 

 

Who's that? 



thismeintiel said:

Yeah, don't bother writing long things, I'm not reading it.  Your opinion is irrelevant.  As Ryan said, whine away.  As Cartman said, 'Tears of unfathomable sadness, they're so delicious.'

Nice...retort?  Basically shoved your fingers in your ears and said, "Nah, nah, nah.  I'm not listening."  That's ok.  I'll remember to avoid your posts.

Thanks, I thought it was a nice retort also (that's all I read).



mornelithe said:
platformmaster918 said:
MTZehvor said:
 

"Until 2007?" Let's keep in mind here that the act of video taping from the location that they were video taping from didn't even become illegal until 2006 anyway; meaning that at best, you could convict the Patriots of cheating during the 2006 season and 1 quarter of the first game of the 2007 season. The only reason this is considered such a big deal is because the Boston Herald published an article claiming that the Patriots had taped the Rams' defensive walkthroughs before the 2001 Super Bowl, which turned out to be false and was retracted by the Herald later on. So as far as Spygate goes, you have evidence of video taping from a certain location which wasn't even illegal until after the Patriots won the last of their 3 Super Bowls. Congratulations; at best, you've shown that the Patriots' 2006 AFC Championship run might be suspicious and literally nothing else.

As for the footballs being deflated, two things. First off, 10 out of the 11 deflated footballs weren't even significantly below the 12.5 lower limit; meaning that while Belichick's explanation may not hold true if the balls were 2 PSI below the legal limit, it may very well hold true for the lower amount that they were (whatever that was, we still have no details). Beyond all that, though, the referees didn't even log the football PSI before the game; meaning that there's no official record that the footballs were even in the legal range to begin with.

Basically, anyone attempting to pin anything on New England for Deflategate has nothing but speculation to go on at best at this point. If you're going to whine about cheating; at least wait until the official findings are published.

except it was illegal because the NFL fined them and took away a draft pick.  What did they punish them for nothing lol.  Hell even Bob Ryan a Boston sports writer who is naturally more biased towards the Patriots acknowledges Spygate and of course the original legacy tainter the tuck rule play which didn't even apply since Brady had his hand back on the ball before the fumble occured.  Forever tainted in any objective person's mind.  They're the White Sox of our generation.

My god, this is almost too perfect:

 

 

yeah they won fair and square in this game lol no ones is disputing that.  They were already caught on both accounts.  Geez such denial from Pats fans




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mornelithe said:
thismeintiel said:

Yeah, don't bother writing long things, I'm not reading it.  Your opinion is irrelevant.  As Ryan said, whine away.  As Cartman said, 'Tears of unfathomable sadness, they're so delicious.'

Nice...retort?  Basically shoved your fingers in your ears and said, "Nah, nah, nah.  I'm not listening."  That's ok.  I'll remember to avoid your posts.

Thanks, I thought it was a nice retort also (that's all I read).

funny that you mention Cartman when they made a whole episode about Bill Belicheck getting away with cheating.




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I'm okay with the Patriots winning the Super Bowl... Because Seattle simply deserved to lose with that play call. Though their reputation is kind of tarnished at this point and they'll have to live with that..



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PenguinZ said:
I'm okay with the Patriots winning the Super Bowl... Though their reputation is kind of tarnished at this point.

I wonder if South Park will make a sequel to their Bill Belicheck episode next season




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platformmaster918 said:
PenguinZ said:
I'm okay with the Patriots winning the Super Bowl... Though their reputation is kind of tarnished at this point.

I wonder if South Park will make a sequel to their Bill Belicheck episode next season

I would love it if they did.



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Great game, fun to watch, and I'm very pleased with the outcome. It could have gone to either team, and in the end the team that wanted it more won.
Always happy when an Alabama guy decides the game, even if it is West Alabama.



Patriots won me my bet . felt bad betting on them. But I do what I do. (especially since Seattle won me my bet last year)