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Forums - Sports - The NFL Thread 2014: New England Patriots Win Super Bowl XLIX

 

Who will win the Super Bowl?

Who cares? 41 36.61%
 
That AFC team. 29 25.89%
 
That NFC team. 5 4.46%
 
Hahaha, not the Packers! 25 22.32%
 
See Results. 9 8.04%
 
Total:109
RolStoppable said:
mornelithe said:
Can someone clarify something for me. Gronk just caught a TD, had control when both feet were planted in the endzone, then as he was falling out of bounds, lost control. The TD stood, but Patriots announcers were saying it should've been called back.

Conversely, you see time and time again, an RB merely needs to break the plane with the ball, not even set foot in the EZ, and lose control, or toss it after they're sure they've broken the plane, and that counts as a TD. I guess it feels like those are two completely conflicting rules.

A completed catch requires the receiver to maintain control of the ball when he goes to the ground, i.e. through the entire process of the catch. It's similar to the fumble vs. incompleted pass ruling in the open field where a receiver must have possession of the ball long enough to make another move (so technically becomes a runner after getting both of his feet on the ground). If the ball appears to be caught, but it comes out immediately afterwards due to contact with a defender, it's usually ruled an incompleted pass rather than a fumble.

On the other hand, a runner already has possession of the ball by definition, so as soon as the ball breaks the plane of the endzone, the play ends. What happens afterwards becomes irrelevant.

Yeah that's how it was explained to me, I guess it just makes no sense, given as long as 2 feet touch the ground with control, and then you fly out of bounds, it's still a TD.  Just an odd rule.



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RolStoppable said:
SD-DEN 2 DET-ATL   MIN-TB   BUF-NYJ  
CHI-NE   SEA-CAR   MIA-JAC   BAL-CIN  
HOU-TEN   STL-KC   PHI-ARI 1 IND-PIT 1
OAK-CLE 2 GB-NO 1 BYE   WAS-DAL DAL by 7

Made the Thurs. pick in an earlier post. These are for 4:00 games that haven't started yet and the game tonight. Hopefully Rol accepts these. 



Looks like Houston got their game against the Titans won. Looking at the rest of their schedule 8-8 is doable which is a huge improvement over last years 2-14 record.



pokoko said:
amp316 said:

Sorry, but that wasn't a TD.  Notice that Calvin Johnson never has done that since. 

Sorry, but it used to be and I think the change in rules is idiotic.


What is wrong with asking the reciever to keep complete possession throughout the course of a catch?  It seems like a fair rule to me.  I just hate when people say that was a catch or that the Lions were robbed because it was the correct call.  You know who was robbed?  The Packers that time when Golden Tate caught that "game winner" against them.  Why am I sticking up for the Packers?  What is wrong with me? 



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JayWood2010 said:

If you all do fantasy football i hope you guys started Brady and Gronk xD

Yeah this is getting out of hand XD



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45-7 now...



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RolStoppable said:
mornelithe said:

Yeah that's how it was explained to me, I guess it just makes no sense, given as long as 2 feet touch the ground with control, and then you fly out of bounds, it's still a TD.  Just an odd rule.

It makes sense to me.

Also, the rules in the NFL already favor the passing game as it is, so one thing that is on the stricter side isn't something to complain about. The way it's now, it has to be a catch that leaves no room for doubt that it was indeed a catch. That makes the entire thing less controversial than it would be otherwise.

S'ok, I don't play ball so I don't have to deal with the rule :)  Thanks for the explanation though, do appreciate it.