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GreatWhiteAttack on 24 July 2014

What a surprise, now ps4 has best indie support it's the Xbox defense blasting indies, they were all the rage last gen on LIVE, console war is serious business. Indies dont effect AAA, so how are they bad? They won't maker more AAA games in indies go away.



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GreatWhiteAttack on 24 July 2014
BlackyCat said:
Phronesis said:
Ronster316 said:
95% (if not more) of indie games are nothing more than 1-2 hour long mediocre fests with no replayability whatsoever.

I think people have a right to be pissed if they have laid out £350 for a ps4, and the only thing they currently have to play on it are indie games. (taking in to account infamous can be platinumed in 10 hours & Killzone was a flop)


Man, do you actually play indies? Limbo, Braid, Journey, Machinarium...? If you call THAT mediocre then you probably have a bad taste for games. No, really.
We can understand that they want more triple-As on PS4 because that's what everyone wants. But less indies are not equal more AAA.

AAAs need a really long time to develop, and Sony spend last years doing a lot of great games for PS3, that's why there are few on PS4 for now. But the future is bright and these complaints will cease to exist.

Anyway he's right about the fact that the majority of indie game are not intersting ( i'm talking about the whole indie world : flash games, etc.. )

How can you qualify this statement? Says who?



fps_d0minat0r on 24 July 2014
curl-6 said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
curl-6 said:
AAA and indie are both mostly rubbish.
Mid-tier is where the real quality's at.


example?

Fatal Frame, Bayonetta, Monster Hunter.

lol Capcom mid tier? Bayonetta quality?



BlackyCat on 24 July 2014
GreatWhiteAttack said:
BlackyCat said:
Phronesis said:
Ronster316 said:
95% (if not more) of indie games are nothing more than 1-2 hour long mediocre fests with no replayability whatsoever.

I think people have a right to be pissed if they have laid out £350 for a ps4, and the only thing they currently have to play on it are indie games. (taking in to account infamous can be platinumed in 10 hours & Killzone was a flop)


Man, do you actually play indies? Limbo, Braid, Journey, Machinarium...? If you call THAT mediocre then you probably have a bad taste for games. No, really.
We can understand that they want more triple-As on PS4 because that's what everyone wants. But less indies are not equal more AAA.

AAAs need a really long time to develop, and Sony spend last years doing a lot of great games for PS3, that's why there are few on PS4 for now. But the future is bright and these complaints will cease to exist.

Anyway he's right about the fact that the majority of indie game are not intersting ( i'm talking about the whole indie world : flash games, etc.. )

How can you qualify this statement? Says who?

Says Obama.



KLXVER on 24 July 2014
fps_d0minat0r said:

lol Capcom mid tier? Bayonetta quality?


The first Bayonetta game was a quality title.



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GreatWhiteAttack on 24 July 2014
Ronster316 said:
95% (if not more) of indie games are nothing more than 1-2 hour long mediocre fests with no replayability whatsoever.

I think people have a right to be pissed if they have laid out £350 for a ps4, and the only thing they currently have to play on it are indie games. (taking in to account infamous can be platinumed in 10 hours & Killzone was a flop)

It;s not the only thing to playn TLOu is just next week, x1 has nothing thouigh since titanfall. Sucks to eb them. No one os forcing them to play indies, the 2 are not mutually exclusive.



Phronesis on 24 July 2014
BlackyCat said:
Phronesis said:
Ronster316 said:
95% (if not more) of indie games are nothing more than 1-2 hour long mediocre fests with no replayability whatsoever.

I think people have a right to be pissed if they have laid out £350 for a ps4, and the only thing they currently have to play on it are indie games. (taking in to account infamous can be platinumed in 10 hours & Killzone was a flop)


Man, do you actually play indies? Limbo, Braid, Journey, Machinarium...? If you call THAT mediocre then you probably have a bad taste for games. No, really.
We can understand that they want more triple-As on PS4 because that's what everyone wants. But less indies are not equal more AAA.

AAAs need a really long time to develop, and Sony spend last years doing a lot of great games for PS3, that's why there are few on PS4 for now. But the future is bright and these complaints will cease to exist.

Anyway he's right about the fact that the majority of indie game are not intersting ( i'm talking about the whole indie world : flash games, etc.. )

I think the only thing he's right is that he's an Xbox lover, so indies will always suck... until ID@XBOX comes out, then, look, MS supports games, yay!

So... my other opinion is that gamers complain about everything in a way that I don't understand their point. "Another shooter? bah", but when a alternative game comes out it won't sell because it doesn't attract gamers. Consolidate names on the market like God of War, Marios and Gears of Wars will always have their space, but new games have to fight really hard toa barely survive in the industry.

Hey, I'm not saying everyone should LOVE all the indies and make them priority. They are like AAAs, some of them are good, some of them not, but they are a nice addition to diversity. Complaints about indies existence makes no sense.


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GreatWhiteAttack on 24 July 2014
Phronesis said:
BlackyCat said:
Phronesis said:
Ronster316 said:
95% (if not more) of indie games are nothing more than 1-2 hour long mediocre fests with no replayability whatsoever.

I think people have a right to be pissed if they have laid out £350 for a ps4, and the only thing they currently have to play on it are indie games. (taking in to account infamous can be platinumed in 10 hours & Killzone was a flop)


Man, do you actually play indies? Limbo, Braid, Journey, Machinarium...? If you call THAT mediocre then you probably have a bad taste for games. No, really.
We can understand that they want more triple-As on PS4 because that's what everyone wants. But less indies are not equal more AAA.

AAAs need a really long time to develop, and Sony spend last years doing a lot of great games for PS3, that's why there are few on PS4 for now. But the future is bright and these complaints will cease to exist.

Anyway he's right about the fact that the majority of indie game are not intersting ( i'm talking about the whole indie world : flash games, etc.. )

I think the only thing he's right is that he's an Xbox lover, so indies will always suck... until ID@XBOX comes out, then, look, MS supports games, yay!

So... my other opinion is that gamers complain about everything in a way that I don't understand their point. "Another shooter? bah", but when a alternative game comes out like, it won't sell because it doesn't attract gamers. Consolidate names on the market like God of War, Marios and Gears of Wars will always have their space, but new games have to fight really hard toa barely survive in the industry.

Hey, I'm not saying everyone should LOVE all the indies and make them priority. They are like AAAs, some of them are good, some of them not, but they are a nice addition to diversity. Complaints about indies existence makes no sense.


Exactly it's dumb..many of these AAA games now started as smaller indie devs..Indie games are not intefering with AAA game studios at all.  One has zero to do with the other.  All of a sudden if indies stop, there won;t be more AAA games.



Goatseye on 24 July 2014
Phronesis said:

I think the only thing he's right is that he's an Xbox lover, so indies will always suck... until ID@XBOX comes out, then, look, MS supports games, yay!

So... my other opinion is that gamers complain about everything in a way that I don't understand their point. "Another shooter? bah", but when a alternative game comes out it won't sell because it doesn't attract gamers. Consolidate names on the market like God of War, Marios and Gears of Wars will always have their space, but new games have to fight really hard toa barely survive in the industry.

Hey, I'm not saying everyone should LOVE all the indies and make them priority. They are like AAAs, some of them are good, some of them not, but they are a nice addition to diversity. Complaints about indies existence makes no sense.

I never understood the way you guys think.

There were no indies in Xbox 360? It didn't start last year let tell you that.

Xbox live arcade, started with OG Xbox. That's 2004 for ya.



kitler53 on 24 July 2014

i bought a console to play games and i like indie games a lot.


oh sure, a lot of them play like something that would have released on the snes. so it is no wonder really why almost every indie game is vastly better than that shit-feast they call AAA gaming.