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Very much a PC game. Call of Duty 4 has fairly tied up the multiplayer console FPS on the PS3 for a while I suspect.



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I would just ignore Others numbers.



why is that?




also the game isnt released in all eu countrys yet :)



Just because numbers are far more harder to get for Others than for North America and Japan. When just 10,000 or 20,000 or whatever units dramatically changes your position in the charts coupled with so many regions and numbers not being released by professional tracking services for most of them it makes it hard, at least for me, to take the numbers with anything other than a grain of salt.  And because it's a work in progress and unlike Japan and North America we have no real way of gauging or comparing actual hard numbers with other tracking services.

I'm sure though others are going to try to discredit me by saying I'm a 360 fanboy or whatever but that doesn't actually address the points I made. And I'm not trying to bash VGChartz, they're at least trying to do something that nobody else (that I know of) is trying to do because of the reasons I gave above.



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MikeB said:
Maybe many Europeans already bought the cheaper PC version which has been available for quite a while or bought the US import version.

Or VGChartz has tracking problems for Europe, CliffyB's new interview at gametrailers mentioned Gears of War just sold over 4.5 million copies, which is probably shipped and may include sales for the PC version, but he seemed very happy with that figure. VGChartz has it at over 5 million copies sold for just the 360, I sometimes get the impression UK carries too much weight in the VGChartz data (according to Sony 20-22% of its European PS3 business).

A friend bought the game and if good I may pick up this game later this week.

How do you know where he got that number from and what time period it was for? Why make so many assumptions?



1) It probably sold ok on PC

2) By releasing for PC only it probably lost some sales where people have PC and PS3 but didn't want to wait

3) Not sure its out everywhere in Others yet so I'd wait and watch next week too to see how it pans out

4) I just don't think its that popular this time around for some reason



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Legend11 said:
Just because numbers are far more harder to get for Others than for North America and Japan. When just 10,000 or 20,000 or whatever units dramatically changes your position in the charts coupled with so many regions and numbers not being released by professional tracking services for most of them it makes it hard, at least for me, to take the numbers with anything other than a grain of salt.  And because it's a work in progress and unlike Japan and North America we have no real way of gauging or comparing actual hard numbers with other tracking services.

I'm sure though others are going to try to discredit me by saying I'm a 360 fanboy or whatever but that doesn't actually address the points I made. And I'm not trying to bash VGChartz, they're at least trying to do something that nobody else (that I know of) is trying to do because of the reasons I gave above.

well, the eu does have chart track. so yeah....




ioi said:
Others software numbers should always be taken with a +/-20% accuracy week on week. They are not perfect, but far better than you guys are suggesting here and a very good indicator of how a particular game is performing.

I'm not sure how the 22% UK comment is relevant? Where do we feel that vgchartz is overstating UK figures?

Despite the UK hitting 1 million sales at VGChartz later than reported elsewhere (after a major adjustment) the UK accounts for more than that percentage of total 'other' sales on VGChartz, which includes a lot of countries outside of Europe where the Playstation brand is traditionally more popular than other brands (India, South Africa, South America, Indonesia, etc, etc).

Assuming a +/- 20 % can still cause quite a gap, although taking NPD's figures into account numbers for the US / North America may well be less accurate. An example, if 'game 1' sold 1 million copies and 'game 2' sold 800,000 copies, 'game 1' being undertracked by 20% would be 800,000 reported sold and game 2 gets overtracked 20% 960,000 copies sold could be reported. For comparison purposes I think that's destructive, if both are being overtracked or undertracked it doesn't matter much for comparison purposes. But comparing to NPD's data the 360 seems to be structually overtracked and PS3 figures structually undertracked, as such discrepancies until now happened various times in a row before adjustments.

Another example, based on what local retailers told me the Uncharted & R&C bundle is selling well over here and I believe this bundle is available in several European countries or so I've read (in some countries you can [also?] hand pick between other first party titles like Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, etc instead). Yet according to VGChartz Ratchet sold only a little over 3K worldwide for last week (minus North America and Japan), to me that sounds to be off quite a bit. I think just some things to take into account, maybe it helps in determining if data is structurally miscounted and where potential problems lie.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

The major problem with this game not selling so well is that it was delayed until after CoD4 hit stores and had no ads on TV and very little media across the gaming sites compared to CoD4 or any other FPS game.