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Blob on 11 July 2014
phaedruss said:
Blob said:
 


No I don't think people would mind at all, and theres plenty that can be added im sure. But im sure at Nintendo HQ it came down to how quickly they could release it to get another game up for christmas. A lot of ideas that may have come up during development were probably thrown into a folder to be used on future games (in this or other series) so they could get this out quickly.


So what you're saying is that instead of putting in the effort, they decided to go the easy and cheap way? Like I said this seems like something that should be DLC and should've been out by now. I think it points to Nintendo's software output problem as well. I also highly doubt they had much of a discussion beyond making a bunch of Toad levels.

Yep it's a rush job to please a few fans and bolster the lineup. Could still be good for what it is, but I won't buy it till it drops to a price I deem worthy. Hopefully its released at a cheaper price point (I imagine/hope it would).



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IkePoR on 11 July 2014
DerpSandwich said:
We'll both probably get a lot of hate from people crying, "As long as it's fun, who cares???" but I agree with you. Scope and depth are exactly what Nintendo games have been lacking. They used to take an idea and really run with it, but now it's all about condensing one idea into a simple, straightforward experience. It's like they just stopped caring to take the time to craft a full game, because everyone was just buying New Super Mario Bros. games anyway.

This is a great example of something that could have been so much more. Instead it's a mini game disguised as a retail game.

And because they are struggling mightily to recoup the costs of HD games.  



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phaedruss on 11 July 2014
IkePoR said:
DerpSandwich said:
We'll both probably get a lot of hate from people crying, "As long as it's fun, who cares???" but I agree with you. Scope and depth are exactly what Nintendo games have been lacking. They used to take an idea and really run with it, but now it's all about condensing one idea into a simple, straightforward experience. It's like they just stopped caring to take the time to craft a full game, because everyone was just buying New Super Mario Bros. games anyway.

This is a great example of something that could have been so much more. Instead it's a mini game disguised as a retail game.

And because they are struggling mightily to recoup the costs of HD games.  


Nintendo is in a ton of trouble then. I mean if they really didn't have the foresight to prepare for HD development when basically every single Japanese developer went through it, then something is really wrong.



phaedruss on 11 July 2014
Blob said:

Yep it's a rush job to please a few fans and bolster the lineup. Could still be good for what it is, but I won't buy it till it drops to a price I deem worthy. Hopefully its released at a cheaper price point (I imagine/hope it would).


Hopefully yes. No more than 30 dolllars, hopefully more like 20. At that price they could sell a ton as purely an impulse buy from parents on Black Friday.



IkePoR on 11 July 2014
phaedruss said:
IkePoR said:
DerpSandwich said:
We'll both probably get a lot of hate from people crying, "As long as it's fun, who cares???" but I agree with you. Scope and depth are exactly what Nintendo games have been lacking. They used to take an idea and really run with it, but now it's all about condensing one idea into a simple, straightforward experience. It's like they just stopped caring to take the time to craft a full game, because everyone was just buying New Super Mario Bros. games anyway.

This is a great example of something that could have been so much more. Instead it's a mini game disguised as a retail game.

And because they are struggling mightily to recoup the costs of HD games.  


Nintendo is in a ton of trouble then. I mean if they really didn't have the foresight to prepare for HD development when basically every single Japanese developer went through it, then something is really wrong.

http://www.edge-online.com/news/miyamoto-says-nintendo-underestimated-challenge-of-hd-games/

I think they got overconfident and overlooked these things.  I think it was a matter of Nintendo having it's ass on it's chest after the Wii's incredible success. Passing off the increased challenge that HD games bring with the arrogant attitude of "they'll buy Wii Sports and Mario no matter what".  They've clearly been - and continue to be - punished harshly for it.



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phaedruss on 11 July 2014
IkePoR said:

http://www.edge-online.com/news/miyamoto-says-nintendo-underestimated-challenge-of-hd-games/

I think they got overconfident and overlooked these things.  I think it was a matter of Nintendo having it's ass on it's chest after the Wii's incredible success. Passing off the increased challenge that HD games bring with the arrogant attitude of "they'll buy Wii Sports and Mario no matter what".  They've clearly been - and continue to be - punished harshly for it.


Yea, I remember them saying that they were caught off guard or something. It was just such a baffling statement for a lot of people.



Brii on 11 July 2014

I'm going to wait until the game actually comes out before judging it. 3D World looked bland and generic at E3, as well, and it turned out to be spectacular. A lot of the games were clearly just small tastes and nowhere close to the full experience, which already bodes well since those small demo were great. Though I do feel Treasure Tracker would be the most likely to be underwhelming as an end product, since it's the closest to release. I still feel It has potential and is definitely seeming worth more than the $20 previously suggested.



IkePoR on 11 July 2014
Brii said:
I'm going to wait until the game actually comes out before judging it. 3D World looked bland and generic at E3, as well, and it turned out to be spectacular. A lot of the games were clearly just small tastes and nowhere close to the full experience, which already bodes well since those small demo were great. Though I do feel Treasure Tracker would be the most likely to be underwhelming as an end product, since it's the closest to release. I still feel It has potential and is definitely seeming worth more than the $20 previously suggested.

Going with $39.99.  



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SjOne on 11 July 2014

This is further example of the power of Nintendo IPs. If it weren't Toad as main character would people still notice this game as much?



Brii on 11 July 2014
IkePoR said:
Brii said:
I'm going to wait until the game actually comes out before judging it. 3D World looked bland and generic at E3, as well, and it turned out to be spectacular. A lot of the games were clearly just small tastes and nowhere close to the full experience, which already bodes well since those small demo were great. Though I do feel Treasure Tracker would be the most likely to be underwhelming as an end product, since it's the closest to release. I still feel It has potential and is definitely seeming worth more than the $20 previously suggested.

Going with $39.99.  

Sounds reasonable. It really depends on the amount of content. I'd still be suprised if it was the full $60, though.