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Squeezol said:
Darwinianevolution said:
I'm pretty sure there's going to be a videogame crisis between the 8th and 10th gen. The market has expanded too much too fast. Not only there are a lot of hardware options (Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, tablet, mobile,PCs, miniconsoles...) to choose from, the bad habits of the industry are going to burn it in the long run.

In what way would you portray this 'crisis'?

I can honestly see it happening in one way or another. AAA game budgets are getting ridiculous by the way. Image what could go wrong if it gets worse..


I don't particulary see a major reason for a crash, but there are a lot of signs already (AAA games that can't get half of their costs and bankrupt studios, mobile gaming growing as fast and with poor quality as the market before 83, overuse of IPs new and old alike, too many machines competing, major investors deciding on abandoning the videogame market for safer and more profitable business, overreliance on practices like free to pay or pay to win, growing costs of games, companies like King or Zynga being the rol model for new studios...).

If the economy suffers a crysis for some reason (I bet on the prices of oil, with all the problems on Middle East it's going to happen) in an environment already fragile (all the reasons stated above) one of the console manufacturers will stop producing machines. My money is on Microsoft, Playstation is too profitable to Sony and Nintendo has a good money reserve, and there were rumors of MS investors talking about selling the XBox brand. Most tablets and phones manufacturers will go out as well, that market is also crowded, but no before most mobile developers start absorbing each other, until a big mobile company stands above the rest and practically monopolizes the market. Investors will abandon giant publishers like EA or Activision and, with hundreds of game developers without job and a very reduced market, other companies will panic too, and the snowball will get bigger and bigger.

PC gaming will be able to survive thanks to low prices, but physical releases will be a thing of the past. No AAA and no giant franchises, just cheap small-medium games.

I don't know what will happen to the handheld market. It has shrunk a lot already, but when the tablet and phone bubble burst it could see an improvement. Only one handheld console on the market though.



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The only thing that passes me off is the phablet casual gamers who don't see themselves as video gamers and who continue to disdain videogames as a giant waste of time. I have family members who play candy crush, jetpack joyride and such quite a lot. Yet will act like hard core gamers are inferior for enjoying gaming as a principle past time instead of a thing you do if there is nothing else to do or only a little time.

I'm more than happy for gaming to go in all sorts of directions. I have fun at the core and casual end.



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KLXVER said:

EA: We embrace every gamer and listen to them.......except WiiU owners, because fuck them.


EA listen to new ways of robbing your wallet, that is a way of listening to customers... maybe they think WiiU owners wallet is to filthy or the WiiU owners are too smart to fall in their trap. I know the WiiU customers is too smart to EA, but being EA such a idiotic company I don't doubt they think the former is real.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Mnementh said:
I don't think core gamers are pissed about offerings to other demographics. They are pissed because the offerings fro the core are getting less common or classic core games are transformed to cater more to new audiences.

The problem here is: as I came inbto gaming, many games survived on 20K buyers. But these games were developed by 5 people in thre months. Today to compete games are developed by 500 people in three years. Obviously 20K sales aren't enough to bring back the investion. That's why many classic core games are dropped or changed to draw in more people. Losing the old gamers on the way.


Pretty much this...

Core gamers wouldn't care if they release farmville or candy crush on PS4/X1/WiiU, but when they decide to put elements of dumbed down games on our core games than we get pissed of. Or when they just abandon all core games of previous generations to just release the trash aiming casuals.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

As long as they continue to make horrible DLC's and terrible decisions for us gamers, I dont care what they say.



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That's big talk for a publisher well known for only chasing the fast buck, EA.