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kitler53 on 05 July 2014

movies are suppose to have a similar hit/miss ratio.

...i would have a hard time investing my money into that kind of model though.



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AZWification on 05 July 2014
NiKKoM said:

Singstar probaly paid the bills for games like Starhawk, PSASBR, Sly 4, Twisted Metal, Socom etc etc.. show some respect for that.

lol.... I'd rather not do that!



                
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Lawlight on 05 July 2014
daredevil.shark said:
God of war ascension took $50 million to make. The last of us had to sell a lot to cover these poor performers. I cant blame Sony saying, expect fewer AAA games.



Not really. GoW:A made $35M in revenue in the first half of 2013 in Europe and another $35M in its first month in the US (620,000 sold).



MoHasanie on 05 July 2014
DonFerrari said:
CommonNinja said:

I wonder what these stats of his are based off of?

Is it based off of all the games they released for PS3?

The last 10 games they released?

All they games thier FP have released since the original Playstation??

Does this include vita games (which probabally don't make any money) like Killzone mercenary?

 

I wish he would be more clear.  It seems like the last 3 big games they released have made money or at least broke even.  Killzone and Knack both sold north of 2M copies, and Infamous SS was the best selling Infamous in franchise history with about ~1.5M sold.

So it would seem to me that lately they have been very sucessfull.  They had a couple of flops last year (sales wise) like the pupatear, or GOW:A, but overall I think they are on a much smoother coarse now thanks to the PS4's success.

If I were to bet I would say it is something along historical since the PS1 or at least 7th gen onwards... And actually being historic data would explain why they never really made tons of billions on PS platform, because HW is at best self-contained cost with no profit, and the SW is small profit if 2 games profits hold the loss of 6 games and other 2 are smally profitable... That would leave just royalties of 3rd parties as more profitable... There would be no other way to explain how Nintendo selling 20M HW on gen 6th profited more than Sony on 160M.

Didn't Nintendo make a lot of their money in those days from the Gameboy? 



    

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MoHasanie on 05 July 2014
Lawlight said:
daredevil.shark said:
God of war ascension took $50 million to make. The last of us had to sell a lot to cover these poor performers. I cant blame Sony saying, expect fewer AAA games.



Not really. GoW:A made $35M in revenue in the first half of 2013 in Europe and another $35M in its first month in the US (620,000 sold).

Where did you get those figures from? 



    

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DonFerrari on 05 July 2014
MoHasanie said:
DonFerrari said:
CommonNinja said:

I wonder what these stats of his are based off of?

Is it based off of all the games they released for PS3?

The last 10 games they released?

All they games thier FP have released since the original Playstation??

Does this include vita games (which probabally don't make any money) like Killzone mercenary?

 

I wish he would be more clear.  It seems like the last 3 big games they released have made money or at least broke even.  Killzone and Knack both sold north of 2M copies, and Infamous SS was the best selling Infamous in franchise history with about ~1.5M sold.

So it would seem to me that lately they have been very sucessfull.  They had a couple of flops last year (sales wise) like the pupatear, or GOW:A, but overall I think they are on a much smoother coarse now thanks to the PS4's success.

If I were to bet I would say it is something along historical since the PS1 or at least 7th gen onwards... And actually being historic data would explain why they never really made tons of billions on PS platform, because HW is at best self-contained cost with no profit, and the SW is small profit if 2 games profits hold the loss of 6 games and other 2 are smally profitable... That would leave just royalties of 3rd parties as more profitable... There would be no other way to explain how Nintendo selling 20M HW on gen 6th profited more than Sony on 160M.

Didn't Nintendo make a lot of their money in those days from the Gameboy? 


That is what I hear, but Sony selling so much as 160M HW and 1.5B in total SW (probably north of 150M 1st parties) they should have profited much more than the figures we see throw around.



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freebs2 on 05 July 2014

Yeah we support talent, so you should support us too. That's what a self-respected hardcore gamer does, bla bla bla...



MoHasanie on 05 July 2014
DonFerrari said:

That is what I hear, but Sony selling so much as 160M HW and 1.5B in total SW (probably north of 150M 1st parties) they should have profited much more than the figures we see throw around.

But remember that the one third of the PS2s sales came after the PS3 launched. So by 2006, it could have been very profitable but the game division still reported a loss because of the PS3. 



    

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adriane23 on 05 July 2014
BraLoD said:
So support yourself and gimme another The Legend of Dragoon game Sony!
It can be a sequel, a prequel, or even the remake of the original, but do something already!

This times 7 billion.



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Lawlight on 05 July 2014
MoHasanie said:
Lawlight said:
daredevil.shark said:
God of war ascension took $50 million to make. The last of us had to sell a lot to cover these poor performers. I cant blame Sony saying, expect fewer AAA games.



Not really. GoW:A made $35M in revenue in the first half of 2013 in Europe and another $35M in its first month in the US (620,000 sold).

Where did you get those figures from? 

 

Neogaf.

Europe numbers:

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=668021

 

For US numbers I'll have to go through thre NPD topics to find creamsugar's post.