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Why don't you count multiplatform and digital games?

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MikeRox said:
nitekrawler1285 said:

It largely has to do with context. On a sales website an often unstated context lies in how does this game sell the console. Multiplatform games dont offer any advantage in that context. Download games without retail presence are also similarly useless so they get discounted from discussion. 


But most games sold tend to be barring the Nintendo stuff, multiformat.

I'm pretty certain most Xbox and PlayStation owners buy the systems for 3rd party releases which are available on other systems. Exclusives may help steer which way someone leans if they're only going to buy 1 format, but if you want GTA, either price or best version is going to be the factor, rather than the fact that ICO is on one of the systems.

Many of those games you speak of as being multiplatform now such as GTA were not originally. Millions of dollars were paid by companies to make them exclusive if only for a time.  The console that had all of them that way first has far and away beat every other console ever. Only edge out DS I guess.



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GTA has never been exclusive. It might have been timed exclusive, but there has been a PC version of every single GTA title. Timed exclusivity was bought (or a superior versions better suited to more powerful systems was later released), but other than the PSP ones, I can't think of any GTA titles that are exclusive to a single manufacturer.



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Multiplatform games is not why i choose to buy a console, exclusives are



This, essentially people will buy an xbox one over ps4 for Titan Fall and plants vs zombies even if it isn't exclusive. 



RolStoppable said:

Gaming discussion is mostly pointless. Not just because it's highly subjective, but even moreso because most people around here already know what any specific poster is going to say. Still though, when it comes to which platform people prefer, it usually comes down to exclusives (even if it's just one or two games).

When it comes to sales, multiplatform games don't tip the scale in favor of one or the other console, so they are of lower value than exclusives in such discussions and rightly so. Price of the system itself and its general perception play a bigger role than multiplatform games themselves; unsurprisingly, because if the game is the same, it has to be another factor that makes the difference. Digital-only can be safely disregarded, because the average console buyer is hardly aware of those games' existences.

However, if the sales discussion concerns the overall performance of a console (instead of the tipping the scale context), then multiplatform games obviously do matter. Especially because they move more Sony and Microsoft consoles than exclusives do. The reality is that the PS vs. Xbox context is much more popular than anything else, so that's why the vast majority of discussions drift into that direction (if it wasn't already the initial context to begin with).

If there was a like button on here, that post would get it Mr RolStoppable

It just cracks me up when so much emphasis is placed on exclusives when, outside of Nintendo, when you look at sales charts, the vast majority of software sales are for games available on more than 1 format, so for the owners of those consoles, exclusives must matter less.



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MikeRox said:
GTA has never been exclusive. It might have been timed exclusive, but there has been a PC version of every single GTA title. Timed exclusivity was bought (or a superior versions better suited to more powerful systems was later released), but other than the PSP ones, I can't think of any GTA titles that are exclusive to a single manufacturer.


I mentioned timed exclusivity in the second sentence. I also mentioned others games broadly as in ps2s  success is not owed to the one game gta.



nitekrawler1285 said:
MikeRox said:
GTA has never been exclusive. It might have been timed exclusive, but there has been a PC version of every single GTA title. Timed exclusivity was bought (or a superior versions better suited to more powerful systems was later released), but other than the PSP ones, I can't think of any GTA titles that are exclusive to a single manufacturer.


I mentioned timed exclusivity in the second sentence. I also mentioned others games broadly as in ps2s  success is not owed to the one game gta.

True. But based on the logic of this forum, even if a game is exclusive to a console for 6 months, it's irrelivant because everyone will know to wait for the game to come out on the format of their choice. :p

The PS2 was a glory period of "seemingly exclusive" releases though. However that was 10+ years ago. The market is very different now. Which is why I find the focus on exclusives interesting. Because these games used to be seen as exclusives, but they're now multiformat, but still sell in similar quantities meaning that the audiences wanted that software.



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MikeRox said:
nitekrawler1285 said:
MikeRox said:
GTA has never been exclusive. It might have been timed exclusive, but there has been a PC version of every single GTA title. Timed exclusivity was bought (or a superior versions better suited to more powerful systems was later released), but other than the PSP ones, I can't think of any GTA titles that are exclusive to a single manufacturer.


I mentioned timed exclusivity in the second sentence. I also mentioned others games broadly as in ps2s  success is not owed to the one game gta.

True. But based on the logic of this forum, even if a game is exclusive to a console for 6 months, it's irrelivant because everyone will know to wait for the game to come out on the format of their choice. :p

The PS2 was a glory period of "seemingly exclusive" releases though. However that was 10+ years ago. The market is very different now. Which is why I find the focus on exclusives interesting. Because these games used to be seen as exclusives, but they're now multiformat, but still sell in similar quantities meaning that the audiences wanted that software.


I don't disagree with you at all. 

I would simply restate my context of how will it help a system sell. Even if i dont agree a very popular context on vgchartz is console warrior agendas. 



MikeRox said:
RolStoppable said:
Are we talking about gaming or about sales here? I know you put this into Gaming Discussion, but you seem to blend things together.


Both really. I mean as a general point of discussion in a thread. When listing games someone says they like on a format, it's instantly jumped on as "not exclusive" or "only a download game".

In sales, that game is still on that format, so therefore counts towards it's overall lineup. For gaming in general, a lot of people actually only play multiformat games. There are people who's staple gaming diet is FIFA, Call of Duty and then something else to fill in the gap.

So do most gamers (beyond forums such as this) actually give a damn whether a game is on another format, or is a port of a game from a system 2 generations ago that they never owned? (If someone never had an original Xbox, the Master Chief Collection is actually introducing them to a completely new game in Halo 2 remastered).

There just seems to be too much focus on the exclusive/physical aspect, as opposed to the actual quality of the game itself.

A high quality exclusive is great, but it just seems some people don't want to even consider multi format and digital part of a system's lineup.

Agreed. You would not believe the amount of people on Vgchartz that discounts it as a exclusive. Its gonna introduce the game to millions how never had the chance to play the older games and imo is a exclusive.

Most people assume you have multiple machines when in reality thats simply not true. Hence why it becomes more important when choosing one platform for all your gaming needs.



sweetoothj said:

This, essentially people will buy an xbox one over ps4 for Titan Fall and plants vs zombies even if it isn't exclusive. 


Yup, and people will dismiss them because according to them everyone has a high end gaming PC and would be foolish to buy it for the Xbox one.