GribbleGrunger said: kitler53 said: GribbleGrunger said: Sorry, but I don't believe these numbers at all. Last month the PS4 was overtracked by 50k in America and this week it sold 100k (according to VGC). So how the hell can it have been 'reduced' to 8.1m? At the worse is should be STILL 8.2m. vgcz adjusted ps4's numbers in europe down by almost 10k per week every week going back through janurary.  that's about a 200k negative adjustment to ps4. And why exactly? How about we see that XB1 number reduced too.

i dunno.  i don't make the numbers i just dump them from vgcz database into my spreadsheet.

xbone was adjusted in the usa by 31,428 units over the month of may.   that is closer to NPD but still at ~105k compared to NPD's ~77k.

kitler53 said: i dunno.  i don't make the numbers i just dump them from vgcz database into my spreadsheet. xbone was adjusted in the usa by 31,428 units over the month of may.   that is closer to NPD but still at ~105k compared to NPD's ~77k.

After SO many months of 'big' mistakes I now find it impossible (not almost impossible) to believe any of the numbers we find here. Until the algorithm is adjusted and yields more realistic results, I'm afraid this will continue.

GribbleGrunger said: kitler53 said: i dunno.  i don't make the numbers i just dump them from vgcz database into my spreadsheet. xbone was adjusted in the usa by 31,428 units over the month of may.   that is closer to NPD but still at ~105k compared to NPD's ~77k. After SO many months of 'big' mistakes I now find it impossible (not almost impossible) to believe any of the numbers we find here. Until the algorithm is adjusted and yields more realistic results, I'm afraid this will continue.

the main thing is we never know european numbers

OfficerRaichu15 said: GribbleGrunger said: kitler53 said: i dunno.  i don't make the numbers i just dump them from vgcz database into my spreadsheet. xbone was adjusted in the usa by 31,428 units over the month of may.   that is closer to NPD but still at ~105k compared to NPD's ~77k. After SO many months of 'big' mistakes I now find it impossible (not almost impossible) to believe any of the numbers we find here. Until the algorithm is adjusted and yields more realistic results, I'm afraid this will continue. the main thing is we never know european numbers

the main thing is vgcz is a random number generator adjusted to fit other tracking services and shipment figures.

kitler53 said: the main thing is vgcz is a random number generator adjusted to fit other tracking services and shipment figures.

Isn't there a company that tracks sales in Europe? I believe Nintendo use them.

GribbleGrunger said: kitler53 said: the main thing is vgcz is a random number generator adjusted to fit other tracking services and shipment figures. Isn't there a company that tracks sales in Europe? I believe Nintendo use them.

chart track

their numbers are as readily pirateable availible as npd or media crate though.

TheBlackNaruto said: Why do people STILL say that the XB1 is not released in all territories yet as if that is the reason the sales are the way they are for it? Not a shot at you foodfather I just still see this to this day and is confusing. Like does everything think it will be a huge jump when it comes out in all of those territories? I would think it would only be maybe a 2,500-5,00 difference at best. Which is good but still not to different from what it is doing right now. Just my thoughts on that... On Topic: Pretty bad week over all for everything. But ti is the slowest time of year with no real big game releases coming for a while so no big deal there really. I see the 3DS is on top but is it up from last year? I am not sure....well anyway folks better get used to these kind of number for a few months!

I agree tbh, a lot of those countries won't give the boost people think otherwise MS would have already released in them by now. On topic I wasn't expecting the price cut to do too much for the X1 as imo the issue is more then just price and the were bundles before at that price but now I can see MS have a big issue on their hands as I was expecting better sales then that and a boost that put them ahead for at least a week or two. I think going by sales of all platforms the console market like the handheld has shrunk from the previous gen as well.

Troll_Whisperer said: ChudStudly said: Troll_Whisperer said: ChudStudly said: No I don't remember wrong, considering I'm only talking about the U.S. Then you should've specified. My deepest, most insincere apologies then. Thanks :p

Good-natured ribbing aside,  my ultimate point was this seems to happen every summer. Console sales drop, people say they're dead, holiday sales say otherwise. Rinse, repeat. "Oh, but this is the NEW generation! Sales should be at a constant 700k worldwide at all times!" Why? So what if they're new? It's the slow season. PS4 is greatly outselling what PS360 did weekly across the globe during their first summers, and BOTH have sold a combined total of 12.7 MILLION in less than a year. That's more than double their predecessors during the same time period. But no, consoles are dead. 

 

Chill, guys. Destiny is on track to be an absolute juggernaut. This fall is crammed to the gills. Christmas through next March are packed with new releases. Console sales are gonna be RIDICULOUS. And then, summer will hit. Sales will slow down for a few months. And life will go on.

the summer drought begins!!! though pretty rough week; have a hard time believing those XB1 as I was execting a bigger boost(atleast a 130k)

I'm not surprised by the low xbox one's numbers even after the price cut. Everybody knows it's the inferior console.
NPD will probably shows that vgchartz even overestimate it on US only again. Amazon.com shows PS4 well above it.

Game Over M$.

Destiny will boost PS4 again. But doesn't care. I will be Full PC player then.