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BMaker11 said:
Dark Chaos said:
BMaker11 said:

according to official shipments, PS3 surpassed Xbox 360 back in December 2012. Factor in how padded the 360s numbers are due to multiple purchases via RROD, and the PS3 surpassed it way before that. Not "officially", because only shipments and sold-through numbers matter to investors, but unofficially in the sense that more people own PS3s worldwide than 360s


So you have no facts to back this outlandish statement? Here is a fact,  MS doesn't count RROD units.

What in the shit are you talking about? No facts? PS3 surpassed 360 in worldwide shipments back in December 2012. And if I buy a 360 right now, that counts as a sale. If it RRODs or fails otherwise, and I go out and buy another unit....MS won't count it as another sale? How will they differentiate between buying one for replacing a bricked Xbox or if I'm buying one as a completely new customer. Would I have to fill out some survey that says "I'm buying a new console because my old one broke"?

Sir, pass me the drugs. I want whatever you're smoking. 


But according to a new forecast report summarized by Games Industry International, the PlayStation 3 has officially taken the lead in units shipped.

Games Industry International cites a “market analysis” document by Lewis Ward of IDC (the International Data Corporation) called Worldwide Video Game Entertainment Console Hardware and Packaged Software 2012-2016 Forecast.

 

u know what they are doing?

idc forecasts? u want to know theire smartphone forecasts?

they do the same like vgchartz. but just for future sales. not past ones :D

thats soo reliable.

 

 

and even if that would have been true, xbox 360 took back the lead

 

 

edit:

here is the ultimative prove, why that article is just bullshit.

77m ps3 shipped as of december 2012

this are sonys shipments of 2013:

 

3.4m units january - march

1.1m units april - june

2.0m units july - october

november 2013 offcial 80 million shipped announcement from sony

 

if that article was any kind of right, they should have been at >83.5m units



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prinz_valium said:
BMaker11 said:
Dark Chaos said:
BMaker11 said:

according to official shipments, PS3 surpassed Xbox 360 back in December 2012. Factor in how padded the 360s numbers are due to multiple purchases via RROD, and the PS3 surpassed it way before that. Not "officially", because only shipments and sold-through numbers matter to investors, but unofficially in the sense that more people own PS3s worldwide than 360s


So you have no facts to back this outlandish statement? Here is a fact,  MS doesn't count RROD units.

What in the shit are you talking about? No facts? PS3 surpassed 360 in worldwide shipments back in December 2012. And if I buy a 360 right now, that counts as a sale. If it RRODs or fails otherwise, and I go out and buy another unit....MS won't count it as another sale? How will they differentiate between buying one for replacing a bricked Xbox or if I'm buying one as a completely new customer. Would I have to fill out some survey that says "I'm buying a new console because my old one broke"?

Sir, pass me the drugs. I want whatever you're smoking. 


But according to a new forecast report summarized by Games Industry International, the PlayStation 3 has officially taken the lead in units shipped.

Games Industry International cites a “market analysis” document by Lewis Ward of IDC (the International Data Corporation) called Worldwide Video Game Entertainment Console Hardware and Packaged Software 2012-2016 Forecast.

 

u know what they are doing?

idc forecasts? u want to know theire smartphone forecasts?

they do the same like vgchartz. but just for future sales. not past ones :D

thats soo reliable.

 

 

and even if that would have been true, xbox 360 took back the lead

Well, they must have been pretty accurate since Major Nelson confirmed 76M sold (not shipped) a month and a half after the report came out. So I'd consider it pretty reliable. 



BMaker11 said:
prinz_valium said:
BMaker11 said:
Dark Chaos said:
BMaker11 said:

according to official shipments, PS3 surpassed Xbox 360 back in December 2012. Factor in how padded the 360s numbers are due to multiple purchases via RROD, and the PS3 surpassed it way before that. Not "officially", because only shipments and sold-through numbers matter to investors, but unofficially in the sense that more people own PS3s worldwide than 360s


So you have no facts to back this outlandish statement? Here is a fact,  MS doesn't count RROD units.

What in the shit are you talking about? No facts? PS3 surpassed 360 in worldwide shipments back in December 2012. And if I buy a 360 right now, that counts as a sale. If it RRODs or fails otherwise, and I go out and buy another unit....MS won't count it as another sale? How will they differentiate between buying one for replacing a bricked Xbox or if I'm buying one as a completely new customer. Would I have to fill out some survey that says "I'm buying a new console because my old one broke"?

Sir, pass me the drugs. I want whatever you're smoking. 


But according to a new forecast report summarized by Games Industry International, the PlayStation 3 has officially taken the lead in units shipped.

Games Industry International cites a “market analysis” document by Lewis Ward of IDC (the International Data Corporation) called Worldwide Video Game Entertainment Console Hardware and Packaged Software 2012-2016 Forecast.

 

u know what they are doing?

idc forecasts? u want to know theire smartphone forecasts?

they do the same like vgchartz. but just for future sales. not past ones :D

thats soo reliable.

 

 

and even if that would have been true, xbox 360 took back the lead

Well, they must have been pretty accurate since Major Nelson confirmed 76M sold (not shipped) a month and a half after the report came out. So I'd consider it pretty reliable. 


look at me edit.

 

50% right.

they nailed the microsoft ones, but were totally off for the sony figures...



DakonBlackblade said:
sales2099 said:
DakonBlackblade said:

The PS3 has always outsold the X1 by a fairly large margin, its not rocket sience, 1 year less in the market and the same total sales, PS3 has always sold faster. I dont know why ppl look at total sales of consoles that didnt launch at the same year. Its lthe same deal with the WiiU and the ONe, saying the WiiU is ahead is not right the XOne sells a lot faster than the WiiU ever did, launches need ot be aligned.

Except that is making an unfair industry fair, which alters reality. This is an industry where head starts count and aligned launches are only done by the losing fan faction to save face. WiiU got a head start and reaped that year of sales benefits. Now X1 has its work cut out for it to take 2nd. There is no compensation system in the industry. You have to make your own way, there is no unified start date.

It only counts if the 360 stays in the market for 1 year more than the PS3 otherwise it doesnt. Again not rocket sience 1 year less to sell the same amount = better sales.

Um no. total sales have always counted. PS2 did it, 360 did it, WiiU does it. It's all a messy thing, but to try to make this into a neat clean picture isn't representative of reality. Again, only losing factions do this to feel better.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

GhetooBillGates said:
Wasnt this site that had PS3 at 3 million ahead of 360 sales i smell bullshit, including the PS2 sales they are clearly over 160 million, and are still selling to this day. Lets not get started with their PS4 numbers and XBox One numbers NPD pegs Xbox One at a low 4 million once all reports are placed together yet its pagged 4.6 million right here.

 

Strange indeed.



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It doesn't really matter does it?



Wasn't it just announced at E3 that the 360 sales have rose to 84 million?



why it would care?



Sharpryno said:
Wasn't it just announced at E3 that the 360 sales have rose to 84 million?


Shipped



Blood_Tears said:
Sharpryno said:
Wasn't it just announced at E3 that the 360 sales have rose to 84 million?


Shipped


quarterly resluts are always sold to retailers aka shipped figures