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cheshirescat said:
Samus Aran said:
cheshirescat said:
Samus Aran said:

I would wait before it's released before judging it. I reckon it will score pretty well! When has EAD Tokyo ever made a bad game? 



Ice climbers.

I was expecting someone to say Donkey Kong Jungle Beats. 


Never played jungle beats, or knew ead made the game.  That and ice climbers was a terrible game, if it weren't for their novelty in smash literally no one would give a shit about the ip.

For the record, EAD Tokyo's first game was Donkey Kong Jungle Beats. Ice Climber is a bit older then that. :p 

They're the ones who made Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, Super Mario 3D Land and Super Mario 3D World. They also supervised the remake of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.

Oh, and they made NES Remix 1 & 2. 



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Samus Aran said:
cheshirescat said:
Samus Aran said:

I would wait before it's released before judging it. I reckon it will score pretty well! When has EAD Tokyo ever made a bad game? 



Ice climbers.

I was expecting someone to say Donkey Kong Jungle Beats. 


Donkey Kong Jungle Beats What do I get?



gooch_destroyer said:
Samus Aran said:
cheshirescat said:
Samus Aran said:

I would wait before it's released before judging it. I reckon it will score pretty well! When has EAD Tokyo ever made a bad game? 



Ice climbers.

I was expecting someone to say Donkey Kong Jungle Beats. 


Donkey Kong Jungle Beats What do I get?

The worst game they ever made is what you get. :p 



Samus Aran said:

The worst game they ever made is what you get. :p 


lol are you sure?



Samus Aran said:
cheshirescat said:
Samus Aran said:
cheshirescat said:
Samus Aran said:

I would wait before it's released before judging it. I reckon it will score pretty well! When has EAD Tokyo ever made a bad game? 



Ice climbers.

I was expecting someone to say Donkey Kong Jungle Beats. 


Never played jungle beats, or knew ead made the game.  That and ice climbers was a terrible game, if it weren't for their novelty in smash literally no one would give a shit about the ip.

For the record, EAD Tokyo's first game was Donkey Kong Jungle Beats. Ice Climber is a bit older then that. :p 

They're the ones who made Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, Super Mario 3D Land and Super Mario 3D World. They also supervised the remake of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.

Oh, and they made NES Remix 1 & 2. 


It's the same division, just restructured.  Also, 3D land is unequivocally the worst 3D Mario, terribly overrated, as is 3D world though a considerable improvement on land if onlu for the overworld map.



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Samus Aran said:

The point is Nintendo makes more than just Mario. Although they should cut it out with all those 2D platformers. 

So you're purposefully being obtuse.  Understood, carry on.



Samus Aran said:

No, all my points are valid. All the Halo games will be remade with a huge graphical upgrade. I never said there wasn't a difference between PS3 and PS4, but it sure as hell is a lot less significant than the gap between XBOX and XBONE or 3DS and Wii U. You completely ignore that the two Super Smash Bros. versions have different stages, assist trophies and modes. 

You also ignore the other exclusives like Sunset Overdrive, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Bayonetta 1 & 2 and Hyrule Warriors. 

Sony should've tried to bring at least one big AAA exclusive out during the holiday period of 2014. That's what their main focus should've been instead of buying timed DLC. This is purely my opinion by the way, if you don't agree then that's fine. But stop the name calling, it's getting you nowhere. 

4 Halo games remade + demo > a remake of a game that came out in 2013.

I wish Nintendo remade all 3 Metroid Prime games with a demo for Metroid Prime 4. So yeah, for Halo fans this must be a dream come true. 

bolded: ...yeah, that's not true.

Halo 2 will be remade, the others will be remastered just like TLOU.

And it should have been their main focus to get at least one AAA exclusive this holiday period. Why? Cause people aren't allowed to play multiplats (with some exclusive content) on the PS4? Cause people aren't allowed to play cross gen games on the PS4? Cause people aren't allowed to play digital games on the PS4? So people on the internet could win some list wars? I mean whoopde-fucking-do the Wii U is getting Smash as its big AAA exclusive this holiday season, that automatically makes all the games the Wii U isn't getting unimportant. There won't be any Destiny, Fifa, Battlefield, Evolve, Dragon Age, AC Unity, The Crew and probably a couple more games that I don't remember right now on Wii U but, who cares, there will be Captain Toad, great that Nintendo concentrated on first party exclusively.

"But what about MS, they have third party support and also some big games this holiday season" you might ask now and the reason for that is simple, they are fucking rich, MS does the exact same timed DLC business as Sony, but they still have more money to throw at some third parties for exclusives (cause if you think about it you might realize that MS' first party hasn't exactly drowned people in games on the X1 yet either). And what do they actually have over Sony? FH2 apparently doesn't count since it's racing AND cross gen and Halo MCC is, while a great value, still a remake/remaster so I'm not sure how I'd count that, after all it's apprently much better to repackage 4 of your old games and sell them as your big holiday title than it is to repackage one of your big games and sell it during the summer drought. So what they have left is Sunset Overdrive, brilliant. MS and Nintendo obviously knocked it out of the park while Sony completely dropped the ball.

Why should it have been Sonys main focus to maybe rush out one big unfinished first party game this holiday season? To do what? Why is it in your opinion such a failure on their part that they have apparently been forced to delay their big holiday game a couple months, something that has been happening to Nintendo several times already this gen?



cheshirescat said:
Samus Aran said:
cheshirescat said:
Samus Aran said:
cheshirescat said:
Samus Aran said:

I would wait before it's released before judging it. I reckon it will score pretty well! When has EAD Tokyo ever made a bad game? 



Ice climbers.

I was expecting someone to say Donkey Kong Jungle Beats. 


Never played jungle beats, or knew ead made the game.  That and ice climbers was a terrible game, if it weren't for their novelty in smash literally no one would give a shit about the ip.

For the record, EAD Tokyo's first game was Donkey Kong Jungle Beats. Ice Climber is a bit older then that. :p 

They're the ones who made Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, Super Mario 3D Land and Super Mario 3D World. They also supervised the remake of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.

Oh, and they made NES Remix 1 & 2. 


It's the same division, just restructured.  Also, 3D land is unequivocally the worst 3D Mario, terribly overrated, as is 3D world though a considerable improvement on land if onlu for the overworld map.

I don't think it's possible  to tell which group of developers worked were before the restructering, EAD is very big.  I agree with 3D Land, but people apparently loved it. But 3D World was amazing, so I don't agree there. 



DerNebel said:
Samus Aran said:

No, all my points are valid. All the Halo games will be remade with a huge graphical upgrade. I never said there wasn't a difference between PS3 and PS4, but it sure as hell is a lot less significant than the gap between XBOX and XBONE or 3DS and Wii U. You completely ignore that the two Super Smash Bros. versions have different stages, assist trophies and modes. 

You also ignore the other exclusives like Sunset Overdrive, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Bayonetta 1 & 2 and Hyrule Warriors. 

Sony should've tried to bring at least one big AAA exclusive out during the holiday period of 2014. That's what their main focus should've been instead of buying timed DLC. This is purely my opinion by the way, if you don't agree then that's fine. But stop the name calling, it's getting you nowhere. 

4 Halo games remade + demo > a remake of a game that came out in 2013.

I wish Nintendo remade all 3 Metroid Prime games with a demo for Metroid Prime 4. So yeah, for Halo fans this must be a dream come true. 

bolded: ...yeah, that's not true.

Halo 2 will be remade, the others will be remastered just like TLOU.

And it should have been their main focus to get at least one AAA exclusive this holiday period. Why? Cause people aren't allowed to play multiplats (with some exclusive content) on the PS4? Cause people aren't allowed to play cross gen games on the PS4? Cause people aren't allowed to play digital games on the PS4? So people on the internet could win some list wars? I mean whoopde-fucking-do the Wii U is getting Smash as its big AAA exclusive this holiday season, that automatically makes all the games the Wii U isn't getting unimportant. There won't be any Destiny, Fifa, Battlefield, Evolve, Dragon Age, AC Unity, The Crew and probably a couple more games that I don't remember right now on Wii U but, who cares, there will be Captain Toad, great that Nintendo concentrated on first party exclusively.

"But what about MS, they have third party support and also some big games this holiday season" you might ask now and the reason for that is simple, they are fucking rich, MS does the exact same timed DLC business as Sony, but they still have more money to throw at some third parties for exclusives (cause if you think about it you might realize that MS' first party hasn't exactly drowned people in games on the X1 yet). And what do they actually have over Sony? FH2 apparently doesn't count since it's racing AND cross gen and Halo MCC is, while a great value, still a remake/remaster so I'm not sure how I'd count that, after all it's apprently much better to repackage 4 of your old games and sell them as your big holiday title that it is to repackage one of your big games and sell it during the summer drought. So what they have left is Sunset Overdrive, brilliant. MS and Nintendo obviously knocked it out of the park while Sony completely dropped the ball.

Why should it have been Sonys main focus to maybe rush out one big unfinished first party game this holiday season? To do what? Why is it in your opinion such a failure on their part that they have apparently been forced to delay their big holiday game a couple months, something that has been happening to Nintendo several times already this gen?

I thought people bought a new consoles to play new games with new experiences, not to buy cross-gen games and remakes. ;)

I can play any third party game I want on my PC. It also has the benefit of running better than the console versions. :) 

Yeah, I think the only advantage consoles have over PC is exclusives, so if there aren't any exclusives than that console is not worth it IN MY OPINION. 



Samus Aran said:
Zekkyou said:

Where did he mention length...? You described it as a "big game" which is universally understood around here to mean it will sell a lot :p

Sales wise i'd be incredibly surprised if CT outsold inFamous:SS (unless Nintendo decide to hardcore bundle it). Actually i'd say it doesn't have a chance.

It probably won't, but it's not exactly fair as the PS4 is doing much better than the Wii U. So do we look at attach rate?

Attachment ratios are somewhat pointless as well. The large majority of WiiU owners do so for Nintendo games (few other reasons to own one), so naturally Nintendo's own games sell well within that limited install base. The PS4's player base on the other hand consists of both Sony fans and the general core market. That extra market does often lead to higher total sales, but attachment ratio goes down the toilet pretty quickly.