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Forums - Sales - 6th Generation NPD Comparisons! (WiiU Vs Gamecube and Xbox One vs Xbox)

Seece on 17 June 2014
bubblegamer said:
Seece said:
bubblegamer said:
I don't think WiiU will ever catch up to the GameCube and there is a real chance X1 will stay under XB. Looks like PS4 will barely break the 100 million as well. The market is just smaller these days, probably because last gen consoles are not out for the count yet, PC's are much better for gaming than they were 10 years ago and casuals are harder to attract because of all the mobiel devices that could be gamed on.

Stay under from this point forward or lifetime? Cos it's ahead 500k so far.

I think it will outperform the original lifetime, as Microsoft still has a better fanbase outside of the US today compared to when they just launched their first console. But it will stay under Lifetime in the US or just barely beat it. And yes it will stay under from this point forward in it's lifetime until it gets to under the 300 dollar mark. The original XB was not as expensive when it pulled those numbers.

Fair enough. I think all things considered, the fact XB1 has beaten XB for the first 6 months of its life despite being $499 shows great potential for it. Certainly don't think their userbase in the US is gonna drop from 44m~ (360) to 16m or less, lifetime, even with increased competition.



 

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italo244 on 17 June 2014

PS2 vs PS4 please!



torok on 17 June 2014

This page has a plot in the end with the first 5 months of NPD sales for 6th gen consoles:

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/PlayStation_2



Bet with jetforcejiminy: PS4 will pass the Wii lifetime numbers.

Seece on 17 June 2014
torok said:

This page has a plot in the end with the first 5 months of NPD sales for 6th gen consoles:

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/PlayStation_2

Thanks but I need actual figures.



 

drake_tolu on 17 June 2014

GameCube have sold much good in USA lifetime... but is a Flop in Europe and Japan.



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zorg1000 on 17 June 2014
Seece said:
bubblegamer said:
Seece said:
bubblegamer said:
I don't think WiiU will ever catch up to the GameCube and there is a real chance X1 will stay under XB. Looks like PS4 will barely break the 100 million as well. The market is just smaller these days, probably because last gen consoles are not out for the count yet, PC's are much better for gaming than they were 10 years ago and casuals are harder to attract because of all the mobiel devices that could be gamed on.

Stay under from this point forward or lifetime? Cos it's ahead 500k so far.

I think it will outperform the original lifetime, as Microsoft still has a better fanbase outside of the US today compared to when they just launched their first console. But it will stay under Lifetime in the US or just barely beat it. And yes it will stay under from this point forward in it's lifetime until it gets to under the 300 dollar mark. The original XB was not as expensive when it pulled those numbers.

Fair enough. I think all things considered, the fact XB1 has beaten XB for the first 6 months of its life despite being $499 shows great potential for it. Certainly don't think their userbase in the US is gonna drop from 44m~ (360) to 16m or less, lifetime, even with increased competition.

The same thing could be said about Wii U in terms of price considering its still $299-329 compared to Gamecube being $149 at this point in its life and just a few months away from reaching $99. I dont personally think it will pass GC in US but it has a better shot at doing so once it reaches $199.

I agree with u tho about Xbox One outselling Xbox, it will likely have a longer lifespan than Xbox but shorter than 360. It also probably wont recieve a massive mid gen boost like 360 did with Kinect so I would say 25-30 million lifetime with Wii U at 8 million give or take a mil or so.



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Seece on 17 June 2014
zorg1000 said:
Seece said:

Fair enough. I think all things considered, the fact XB1 has beaten XB for the first 6 months of its life despite being $499 shows great potential for it. Certainly don't think their userbase in the US is gonna drop from 44m~ (360) to 16m or less, lifetime, even with increased competition.

The same thing could be said about Wii U in terms of price considering its still $299-329 compared to Gamecube being $149 at this point in its life and just a few months away from reaching $99. I dont personally think it will pass GC in US but it has a better shot at doing so once it reaches $199.

I agree with u tho about Xbox One outselling Xbox, it will likely have a longer lifespan than Xbox but shorter than 360. It also probably wont recieve a massive mid gen boost like 360 did with Kinect so I would say 25-30 million lifetime with Wii U at 8 million give or take a mil or so.

Oh yeah, I don't think it'll outsell 360, that beast nearly beat PS2 in the US.





 

zorg1000 on 17 June 2014
Shadow1980 said:
torok said:

Seece, you should do a PS4 vs PS2 one too, could be interesting.

Edit: Sorry, didn't saw your warning on the 1st paragraph about the PS2 NPD numbers... If I find something I will post here.


Here's the PS2 vs. PS4:

For some inexplicable reason, the PS2 sold an ungodly sum in March, even more than it did in December. There were no real huge system sellers. Tax season might explain it, but that would be the single biggest tax season boost ever that I'm aware of. Does anybody know if the PS2 was supply-constrained in its early months?

Yes it was very supply constrained at launch. I remember it going for $1000 on ebay



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on 17 June 2014
Shadow1980 said:


Here's the PS2 vs. PS4:

For some inexplicable reason, the PS2 sold an ungodly sum in March, even more than it did in December. There were no real huge system sellers. Tax season might explain it, but that would be the single biggest tax season boost ever that I'm aware of. Does anybody know if the PS2 was supply-constrained in its early months?


Dude, where does your data come from?  I've been trying to create a comparison chart just like this for ages, but everywhere I look I get wildly conflicting numbers.  I'm at the point where I don't know what to believe any more.

To clarify, I've been trying to create a comparison of the four most recent generations (albeit, just Sony and MS).  My gen eight data is from VGChartz, and gen seven is from the table on this page (scroll down to where it says "NPD sales figures monthly table")...

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/NPD_Seventh_generation

All of this I did by monthly figures, but finding monthly sales for gen six (PS2/Xbox) and gen five (PS1) has been a pain in the ass.  I've tried to piece it together from various sources - which frequently report sales by different metrics (yearly, half-yearly, quarterly) - and then make all the time-frames match by dividing out the individual months, taking averages, etc.  And this is often only to discover another source that conflicts with the numbers I've been using.

In short, it's a right mess.  Even Sony's official sales figures only go back to 2006...

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps2_sale_e.html

Do you know of any reliable global sales figures (preferably monthly) for the fifth and sixth gens (Sony and MS only)?  I've asked others but there seems to be a dearth of information on this once you start to look back much further than the previous gen.



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nitekrawler1285 on 18 June 2014
bubblegamer said:
I don't think WiiU will ever catch up to the GameCube and there is a real chance X1 will stay under XB. Looks like PS4 will barely break the 100 million as well. The market is just smaller these days, probably because last gen consoles are not out for the count yet, PC's are much better for gaming than they were 10 years ago and casuals are harder to attract because of all the mobiel devices that could be gamed on.


It's so refreshing to here this from someon elses lips as opposed to my own.  I hope you don't get the ire I normally do.