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well if were going to bash ms for banning a guy for breaking the rules even though its for there benefit then we should also bash steam for doing the same thing

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=838640



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JerCotter7 said:
gergroy said:

Looking at the article, he kind of admitted to back engineering it, which is against the eula...


He didn't say anything of the sorts. He just said if he wants to use the HDD as a pc drive again you have to do it a certain way. It's actually not really anything to do with the console itself. Just how you ruin an HDD if you want to use it with the xbone unless you are a more savy user.

he didn't?  hmmm

GER_v3n3 further stated that: "The EULA says in Germany, that youre not allowed to reverse engineer anything associated with Xbox... its a grey area, but Ive been banned for less before"




Adinnieken said:
Arkaign said:
Mistershine said:
Arkaign said:
Adinnieken said:
If he violated a contract and the terms of the contract allow Microsoft to remove him from the program then it's fair.

To resolve the problem he's referring to, isn't complicated.

You go into the Disk Management, delete the partition, create a new one, then format the disk.

WOW!!! That was difficult. How can people manage that much effort? It's WAY too complicated.

My guess is Microsoft deliberated what they could or should do, and they decided they had the right option.


It's a stupid thing to ban one of the rare German Xbox customers for.

 

And having to reformat your hard drive every time you go from xb1 to PC and back is NOT practical at ALL

Why would you want to keep taking it backwards and forwards?


Are you serious? For someone with a large external they might want to store their pics/videos/music/documents in a way that they can plug into their PC as needed but also use in their Xbox.

Are you?

You fail to understand that an Xbox One owner would have access to OneDrive.  Where images, documents, and videos can be stored.  Access to Xbox Music, where music can be uploaded.

You also assume one can't partition the drive into two partitions.  One compatible with the Xbox One and the other compatible with the PC.

You also assume that an Xbox One owner can't, already, use DNLA to stream content from their Macs/PC to the Xbox One.

Finally, he wasn't banned from Xbox Live.  He was removed from the Preview Program. 

So, again.  I ask, are you serious?  Or are you just unaware of what is and isn't possible already with the Xbox One?







You can't be serious. Skydrive is too small unless you want to pay a bunch of money, it's limited by your internet speed, and isn't compatible with all devices.yyou just wrote a gigantic post that reads like a Microsoft PR piece. I have many Microsoft and windows products. That does NOT mean I want an external drive to effectively become only usable on an Xbox unless I reformat it. That's just asinine. And ditto ps4 if they pull that crap there.



Azerth said:
well if were going to bash ms for banning a guy for breaking the rules even though its for there benefit then we should also bash steam for doing the same thing

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=838640


Agreed we should call out bs everywhere if it's this blatant and stupid.



Arkaign said:


cut the quote trees when you quote people please!



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gergroy said:
JerCotter7 said:


He didn't say anything of the sorts. He just said if he wants to use the HDD as a pc drive again you have to do it a certain way. It's actually not really anything to do with the console itself. Just how you ruin an HDD if you want to use it with the xbone unless you are a more savy user.

he didn't?  hmmm

GER_v3n3 further stated that: "The EULA says in Germany, that youre not allowed to reverse engineer anything associated with Xbox... its a grey area, but Ive been banned for less before"


I wouldn't consider that reverse engineering. He's showing how to complete format the HDD back to standard. Hardly showing people how to get into everything.



JerCotter7 said:
gergroy said:

he didn't?  hmmm

GER_v3n3 further stated that: "The EULA says in Germany, that youre not allowed to reverse engineer anything associated with Xbox... its a grey area, but Ive been banned for less before"


I wouldn't consider that reverse engineering. He's showing how to complete format the HDD back to standard. Hardly showing people how to get into everything.

yes, well evidently microsoft and ger_v3n3 consider it reverse engineering...  Perhaps the only way to be as specific as he was with the issue was to reverse engineer it?  It's certainly above my level of understanding, but either way, both sides considered it reverse engineering...



the-pi-guy said:
Adinnieken said:
If he violated a contract and the terms of the contract allow Microsoft to remove him from the program then it's fair.

To resolve the problem he's referring to, isn't complicated.

You go into the Disk Management, delete the partition, create a new one, then format the disk.

WOW!!! That was difficult. How can people manage that much effort? It's WAY too complicated.


My guess is Microsoft deliberated what they could or should do, and they decided they had the right option.

Did you read the message?  He even brings up that point.  "I guess a very high percentage of Users don't even know this tool exists."  

He brought up this point for the people that aren't techy at all.


That isn't "techy".

Granted, it may be a little beyond the neophyte user, but it isn't "techy".  The way to resolve it isn't to open up the barn door and let the cows out.  The way to resolve it is to write a support document on how people can revert an external HDD from an Xbox One formatting to a standard Windows/PC formatting.  Likewise, offer instructions on how to dual-partition a HDD so you can use one-half for PC content and the other for Xbox One content.

Understand.  The Xbox One partition on the HDD is for DRM content ONLY.  Stuff you purchased through Xbox LIVE.  Not your personal music or video collection. 

Windows 7:

Click Start.
Right-Click Computer and select Manage.
Expand Storage and double-click Disk Management.  The Disk Management console will appear.

(If not connected, connect the external HDD)

Right-click the external HDD and select Delete Volume.
Click Yes.
Right-click the unallocated space and select New Simple Volume.
Click Next.
Select Next again. (Unless you want to split the drive into two partitions, then set the partition to the size you want.)
Select a drive letter, then select Next.
Set the format for the drive to NTFS (should be defaulted), then type a name for the partition (i.e. External HDD), the click Next.
Click Finish.
If prompted to make the partition Dynamic, select No.

Done.

Windows 8 is roughly the same steps. 

These are simple, straight-forward steps.  Not rocket science. 



Always amusing how someone posting his side of the story is like a FACT and nobody do not even considerate that this guy got removed for more than that maybe? And he is just showing what he needs to show to sound like a poor victim :)



Or they could just support standard NTFS partitions on xb1 with no hassles.