same here. When i was playing sonic all stars & injustice online it was fine, same goes for mario kart 8.

only gripe maybe being able to invite them into a game, but mk8 allows you to find your friend and just jump in, which in reality is much better than asking to join.

I gave my opinion on it because they are general opinions. Not just personal ones. You're just personally pissed that not all experiences are the same. Spoiled imho. Nothing you stated was technical, I asked a simple question, and I pre-warned that I was going to refute it. You shouldn't jump off the handle when I gave you pre-warning. 

"It doesn't matter if you use them or not, a lot of people do and it was a common source of frustration"

A lot of people don't use them, and the way you described them as they clan type features. If you want clans on consoles then I suggest you just not buy Nintendo products. Only one game series has "clans" and that's the only shooter that appears on the console. 

" I listed things with patches promissed because the patch isn't out or have a date. "

And last I recall a patch was not promised for any account features. More account related items are up for future consideration, but their next platform is guarenteed to not be using a tied to console feature. 

"If I go to a store, buy a Wii U and it breaks and gets replaced on warranty, I'm screwed."

You're not screwed, don't do store warrenty duh. Doesn't even matter if console breaks out of warrenty, spend 100 bucks have system repaired by Nintendo. Your items and accounts should all be transfered to that wii u ( you'll have to redownload items obviously). 

"About 3DS and NNID you can't have more than one 3DS activated per NNID. I'm not talking about having more than one account per 3DS, even because the other handheld avaiable, Vita, doesn't have it (and I would want a patch for that). "

That's even dumber of a thought now that you explained it. The NNID on 3DS/2DS are mainly to facilitate online and unified wallets. What you are suggesting is the same NNID on multiple 3DSes, which ties exactly in to a comment above I made regarding accounts. One 3DS, One Wii U per NNID. At least purchases from eshops are tied to club Nintendo account and your NNID too. As someone who has worked in databases, I would have given you multiple middle fingers by now if such a system was even attempted to be implemented.

 " Invites outside of games? It's not unusual to be playing and get an invite to play a game with a friend, so sometimes I just want to follow."

You didn't even mention that so do even bring that up. Again, pointless because why would you need an invite out of game to join a friend in another game. Just go in to that game, and join them. practically every damn Nintendo online title has this ability to join your friends without even having an invite. 

"Cross game chatting is great because I can call everyone for a party and ask who wants to play and what they want to play. I'm sick of combining TLOU online matches (specially private matches with clans) using text messages on PS3. I'm usually playing an online match and I have to hide on some spot in the map to try sending a message without giving the enemy a free kill. "

You sound like a very late PS3 adopter. It's a feature I lived without and haven't found a need for. Who's bringing in personal experiences now? Many people do not use this, just clans from what I can tell. Even the idea of clans is stupid to me, but that's another story. I'm not very apologetic to people who stop their game to chat, I'm sure you can wait til inbetween rounds or use headsets. This is pretty damn standard, even on the Wii U

"Another thing that shows how you are taking your personal preferences as a global fact is the numbers of friends. You have 40? Ok. I have 140 on PSN. When I started playing TLOU online I added several local players and I play regularly with all of them. When I get online with my headset, there will always be someone online to play (if you want to play TLOU online for real, you have to face real clans where the real players are). The big problem is that PSN raised the limit to 2000 and patched all consoles. While PS4 and Vita shows up to 2000 friends, the PS3 can't. It shows only 100, priorizing the online friends. But it doesn't works correctly and several times it doesn't shows players that are online and it sucks big time."

This is your own experience that you are describing, don't be a hypocrite. I haven't had a need for more than 40ish friends on my PSN, people who just don't sign on for 1-2 years? yeah I'm deleting them because it's a waste of bandwidth loading thier icons. The problem I have now with your response is that it's not well thought out. It's just the ramblings of a clan player who wants clan features on a console that isn't particularly clan orientated. Some things are legitimate concerns like cross-buy (which Nintendo is looking in to), tied to console purchases, stuff that effects you as a consumer. The other things you complained about are just pointless to have. The system is fine, I have no issues using it. I can voice chat when I want, but I mostly text chat with the people I play over skype or facebook. I'm even an administrator for a small community, we have a damn teamspeak I can use regardless the platform I play.  

It's good to know that they are giving the consumers an option to avoid this issues. Of course, people shouls keep complaining about the problem (since the solution isn't optimal) so they will patch it. Complaining about what is wrong or could be better is what will make MS, Sony and Nintendo correct their products or improve the next ones.

Expend 100 dollars? Nobody wants clans? Nobody need more than 100 friends? You said yourself that if I wantto play with a lot of people and participate on teams I should get a new console. Do you think Nintendo likes that this way? If I send a mail complaining about it to them do you think they will reply "You know, we don't like you. Sell your Wii U and buy a PS4 or X1, that consoles simply rock for what you want"? Only one console per account and that's fine? And about working with databases, what I said is completely possible from a technical standpoint. PSN does it. They are using some magic new DB? You didn't refutted nothing, just ignored everything and said it was fine like it is. And it's you that's stating your personal opinion as a global fact, since you are saying that because you don't need any of this, nobody does.

No system is perfect. Saying that something is perfect is just stating to a company that they don't need to improve anything to keep you as a buyer. I have a PS3 and stated several things that suck about it not because I dislike the system, but because I want them to work hard if they want to keep receiving my money by improving what is bad about their products. I'm a consumer and for them and consumers are king. The good news is that Nintendo isn't blind to that and even if sometimes it doesn't looks like that, they are looking at the complains and issues and trying to improve their products. They know that if they ignore that, people won't buy their products, as Sony and MS do know too. Some things they will fix now, some things only with their next console (like Sony did with cross-game chat). PS4 is being applauded because everybody looked at it and knew that they were trying hard to fix all the crap they done with PS3 and they better work pretty hard to earn my money. I want to see them expend money, create great games and bring features because it's their job to convince me their product is good before other company convince me they have something better.

I'm not continuing this discussion with you from now on since you are taking this to personal level and your posts aren't polite (something that is basic forum rules), even if I keep mine as polite as possible.

I'm glad you are finished here. My post are polite enough while being mean, I can get plenty meaner and if being "mean" is against the rules to be mean then it's against the rules to do a lot things I've seen on this forum. I'm very bullish on these little things. What I was suggesting is if you didn't like the current state of affairs don't bother investing. Consoles are investments and frankly, you can't please everyone. Expending 100 after warrenty isn't all that bad and is standard price for most manufacturers repairs. I would assume you are the type that does take care of consoles (open spaces and such) with how vested you were in the conversation. You have your needs and I have mine. You're at the stage in your gamer life where online connectivity is an important part where I've moved on from that stage in gaming. I've never implied anything was perfect, the current state of consoles (PS4 and One included) has a lot of bloated features. On a side note, when you have opinions on a subject it is already made personal. You participated adding your opinion. 

"Only one console per account and that's fine? And about working with databases, what I said is completely possible from a technical standpoint. PSN does it. They are using some magic new DB? "

What you implied was multiple IDs on one account. PSN does not do that. One ID, multiple platforms. It does not work the way you think it does. It's possible to do it, but from working in databases that programmer will give you multiple middle fingers. The way Nintendo and Sony does it, it's fine. Also to mention, PS4 content is limited to one console and in order to move it to another console you must transfer it and deactivate that old console. It's pretty close to what Nintendo has (and Sony use to allow content on 5 activated consoles). Anyways, I'm done cause you called me "mean" and claimed it was against the rules.