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lmaobox said:


We're talking about Titanfall Xbone version. SONY confirmed that Infamous: SS outsold Titanfall April NPD. VGChartz #s are inaccurate. Titanfall sold less than Infamous SS.

Also, Xbone has less than 4.5 million sold. Stop trying to make the Xbone appear better than it is. It's like a 5'5" guy saying that he's 5'10". He's not fooling anyone.

All the core gamers are on the PS4 now. The early adobters are the people who buy games routinely. Most of those 60+ million on last-gen consoles don't buy a lot of games. How do you think PS4 WatchDogs outsol PS3 and 360 WatchDogs?

Xbox has lost a lot of core gamers, which is why Halo 5 will flop. Check amazon best seller's list. Uncharted 4 at 55. Halo 5 at 60.

Yes.. We are talking JUST X1 TitanFall.  Infamous SS wasn't even in the top 10 for April NPD. That was FALSE info circulated. TitanFall was #1 .. majority of TitanFall sales have by FAR been X1..   X1 preorders for Titanfall were like more then DOUBLE then on X360..   Sorry... TitanFall is certainly outselling Infamous:SS..   

Stop using Amazon numbers to show anything.. Again.. Amazon #'s mean NOTHING for actual sales..  Amazon has had games in top spots for WEEKS and they don't even show up in the top 10 for NPD..   Amazon presales and sales are a SMALL part of the industry.

X1 has lost a lot of CORE GAMERS?? You are making some interesting statements after just a little more then 6 months on the market..  They haven't lost anything.. the generation is just starting..   When the X360 was 8 million ahead of the Wii and PS3 (because they hadn't released yet) did you say that all CORE gamers bought the X360 and the Wii and PS3 would never catch up? Did CORE gamers rush to buy the Wii and make it sell 100m? Anyway.. 



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Predictions on 12/01/15 - Generation 8 Totals:

PS4: 85-95m
X1: 55-65m
WiiU: 20-30m

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cpg716 said:
lmaobox said:


We're talking about Titanfall Xbone version. SONY confirmed that Infamous: SS outsold Titanfall April NPD. VGChartz #s are inaccurate. Titanfall sold less than Infamous SS.

Also, Xbone has less than 4.5 million sold. Stop trying to make the Xbone appear better than it is. It's like a 5'5" guy saying that he's 5'10". He's not fooling anyone.

All the core gamers are on the PS4 now. The early adobters are the people who buy games routinely. Most of those 60+ million on last-gen consoles don't buy a lot of games. How do you think PS4 WatchDogs outsol PS3 and 360 WatchDogs?

Xbox has lost a lot of core gamers, which is why Halo 5 will flop. Check amazon best seller's list. Uncharted 4 at 55. Halo 5 at 60.

Yes.. We are talking JUST X1 TitanFall.  Infamous SS wasn't even in the top 10 for April NPD. That was FALSE info circulated. TitanFall was #1 .. majority of TitanFall sales have by FAR been X1..   X1 preorders for Titanfall were like more then DOUBLE then on X360..   Sorry... TitanFall is certainly outselling Infamous:SS..   

Stop using Amazon numbers to show anything.. Again.. Amazon #'s mean NOTHING for actual sales..  Amazon has had games in top spots for WEEKS and they don't even show up in the top 10 for NPD..   Amazon presales and sales are a SMALL part of the industry.

X1 has lost a lot of CORE GAMERS?? You are making some interesting statements after just a little more then 6 months on the market..  They haven't lost anything.. the generation is just starting..   When the X360 was 8 million ahead of the Wii and PS3 (because they hadn't released yet) did you say that all CORE gamers bought the X360 and the Wii and PS3 would never catch up? Did CORE gamers rush to buy the Wii and make it sell 100m? Anyway.. 

Because NPD took into account all platforms for titanfall.

For next-gen software alone, Infamous: SS outsold Titanfall.

I know this is hard for you to take in, but this is what SONY has said.

The generation is over. Microsoft will compete with Nintendo for last place.



lmaobox said:
cpg716 said:
lmaobox said:


We're talking about Titanfall Xbone version. SONY confirmed that Infamous: SS outsold Titanfall April NPD. VGChartz #s are inaccurate. Titanfall sold less than Infamous SS.

Also, Xbone has less than 4.5 million sold. Stop trying to make the Xbone appear better than it is. It's like a 5'5" guy saying that he's 5'10". He's not fooling anyone.

All the core gamers are on the PS4 now. The early adobters are the people who buy games routinely. Most of those 60+ million on last-gen consoles don't buy a lot of games. How do you think PS4 WatchDogs outsol PS3 and 360 WatchDogs?

Xbox has lost a lot of core gamers, which is why Halo 5 will flop. Check amazon best seller's list. Uncharted 4 at 55. Halo 5 at 60.

Yes.. We are talking JUST X1 TitanFall.  Infamous SS wasn't even in the top 10 for April NPD. That was FALSE info circulated. TitanFall was #1 .. majority of TitanFall sales have by FAR been X1..   X1 preorders for Titanfall were like more then DOUBLE then on X360..   Sorry... TitanFall is certainly outselling Infamous:SS..   

Stop using Amazon numbers to show anything.. Again.. Amazon #'s mean NOTHING for actual sales..  Amazon has had games in top spots for WEEKS and they don't even show up in the top 10 for NPD..   Amazon presales and sales are a SMALL part of the industry.

X1 has lost a lot of CORE GAMERS?? You are making some interesting statements after just a little more then 6 months on the market..  They haven't lost anything.. the generation is just starting..   When the X360 was 8 million ahead of the Wii and PS3 (because they hadn't released yet) did you say that all CORE gamers bought the X360 and the Wii and PS3 would never catch up? Did CORE gamers rush to buy the Wii and make it sell 100m? Anyway.. 

Because NPD took into account all platforms for titanfall.

For next-gen software alone, Infamous: SS outsold Titanfall.

I know this is hard for you to take in, but this is what SONY has said.

The generation is over. Microsoft will compete with Nintendo for last place.


they said for april only................. please don't lie, man.

http://gearnuke.com/infamous-second-son-best-selling-next-gen-software-april-npd-outsells-titanfall-xbox-one/



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lmaobox said:
cpg716 said:
lmaobox said:


We're talking about Titanfall Xbone version. SONY confirmed that Infamous: SS outsold Titanfall April NPD. VGChartz #s are inaccurate. Titanfall sold less than Infamous SS.

Also, Xbone has less than 4.5 million sold. Stop trying to make the Xbone appear better than it is. It's like a 5'5" guy saying that he's 5'10". He's not fooling anyone.

All the core gamers are on the PS4 now. The early adobters are the people who buy games routinely. Most of those 60+ million on last-gen consoles don't buy a lot of games. How do you think PS4 WatchDogs outsol PS3 and 360 WatchDogs?

Xbox has lost a lot of core gamers, which is why Halo 5 will flop. Check amazon best seller's list. Uncharted 4 at 55. Halo 5 at 60.

Yes.. We are talking JUST X1 TitanFall.  Infamous SS wasn't even in the top 10 for April NPD. That was FALSE info circulated. TitanFall was #1 .. majority of TitanFall sales have by FAR been X1..   X1 preorders for Titanfall were like more then DOUBLE then on X360..   Sorry... TitanFall is certainly outselling Infamous:SS..   

Stop using Amazon numbers to show anything.. Again.. Amazon #'s mean NOTHING for actual sales..  Amazon has had games in top spots for WEEKS and they don't even show up in the top 10 for NPD..   Amazon presales and sales are a SMALL part of the industry.

X1 has lost a lot of CORE GAMERS?? You are making some interesting statements after just a little more then 6 months on the market..  They haven't lost anything.. the generation is just starting..   When the X360 was 8 million ahead of the Wii and PS3 (because they hadn't released yet) did you say that all CORE gamers bought the X360 and the Wii and PS3 would never catch up? Did CORE gamers rush to buy the Wii and make it sell 100m? Anyway.. 

Because NPD took into account all platforms for titanfall.

For next-gen software alone, Infamous: SS outsold Titanfall.

I know this is hard for you to take in, but this is what SONY has said.

The generation is over. Microsoft will compete with Nintendo for last place.


"But this is what Sony said"...    Just like when they said a few of their games ran at 1080p when they didn't..    Sorry. All other facts and numbers disprove what "Sony" said..  I am sorry that is hard for you to take...  It was a one off line in a statement..  which they DO not have facts to back it up..    

I was not saying that X1 was winning any generation. Nothing to do what we were talking about. It was about Halo and Uncharted.. Nothing more..  If PS4 doesn't win this generation it will be because Sony goes bankrupt.. there is NO other reason they shouldnt.. The PS2 sold over 150m.. the PS3 less then 90m..   the PlayStation brand is way more internationally recognized then Xbox. No question about that.  



XBLive: cpg716     PSN ID: cpg716  Steam: Luv4Tech77

Predictions on 12/01/15 - Generation 8 Totals:

PS4: 85-95m
X1: 55-65m
WiiU: 20-30m

justgames7604 said:

they said for april only................. please don't lie, man.

http://gearnuke.com/infamous-second-son-best-selling-next-gen-software-april-npd-outsells-titanfall-xbox-one/

Still no links for your numbers.

Microsoft has been pretty silent about titanfall sales. That's a bad sign.

Also, how did a multiplat Watch Dogs on the PS4 outsell every single Xbone game? That's really embarrassing.



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cpg716 said:

"But this is what Sony said"...    Just like when they said a few of their games ran at 1080p when they didn't..    Sorry. All other facts and numbers disprove what "Sony" said..  I am sorry that is hard for you to take...  It was a one off line in a statement..  which they DO not have facts to back it up..    

I was not saying that X1 was winning any generation. Nothing to do what we were talking about. It was about Halo and Uncharted.. Nothing more..  If PS4 doesn't win this generation it will be because Sony goes bankrupt.. there is NO other reason they shouldnt.. The PS2 sold over 150m.. the PS3 less then 90m..   the PlayStation brand is way more internationally recognized then Xbox. No question about that.  

Like which game? Killzone? That game does run at 1080p.

I still want links to your numbers.



lmaobox said:
 


We're talking about Titanfall Xbone version. SONY confirmed that Infamous: SS outsold Titanfall April NPD. VGChartz #s are inaccurate. Titanfall sold less than Infamous SS.


jup 77k vs 82k

but as i mentioned npd doesnt track the digital codes in the titanflal bundles

 

so x% of the 115k consoles sold in april have to be added to that number.

 

titanfall standalone + bundle  = 140k

infamous = 82k

 

source http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=819775&page=58

and thats ofc xbox one only numbers!



prinz_valium said:
lmaobox said:
 


We're talking about Titanfall Xbone version. SONY confirmed that Infamous: SS outsold Titanfall April NPD. VGChartz #s are inaccurate. Titanfall sold less than Infamous SS.


jup 77k vs 82k

but as i mentioned npd doesnt track the digital codes in the titanflal bundles

 

so x% of the 115k consoles sold in april have to be added to that number.

 

titanfall standalone + bundle  = 140k

infamous = 82k

 

source http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=819775&page=58

Infamous also had a bundle.

There are also more people who buy things online on the PS4 than there are on the Xbone.



lmaobox said:
prinz_valium said:
lmaobox said:
 


We're talking about Titanfall Xbone version. SONY confirmed that Infamous: SS outsold Titanfall April NPD. VGChartz #s are inaccurate. Titanfall sold less than Infamous SS.


jup 77k vs 82k

but as i mentioned npd doesnt track the digital codes in the titanflal bundles

 

so x% of the 115k consoles sold in april have to be added to that number.

 

titanfall standalone + bundle  = 140k

infamous = 82k

 

source http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=819775&page=58

Infamous also had a bundle.

There are also more people who buy things online on the PS4 than there are on the Xbone.


the infamous second son bundle is including a physical copy and is tracked by npd

the infamous second son bundle also was never huge in the usa

it is included in the 82k figure

 

 

source or any more infos on ur second assumption?

imho its hard to belive an singelplayer open world offline game is much higher on digital sales than an alwas one required multiplayer fps.

 

but that doest change anyting. even if we add 20% digital to infamous numbers and only 5% to titanfall

 

140k + 5% = 147k

82k + 20% = 98k

 

but we will never get 100% accurate digital numbers.

nevertheless. titanfall sold more than infamous ss. even if ms or ea didnt share any numbers...

 

 

watchtdogs on ps4 alone probably (high likely) sold more than titanfall xbox one, yes...



Titanfall overall sold more than ISS, though it is embarassingly close considering the absolutely ludicrous hype/advertising/bundling that came with it. EVERY major gaming site was wall to wall with Titanfall for weeks, it was beyond overkill.

Watch Dogs had a fraction of the marketing push that TF had, but it blew the doors off of TF sales in a huge way.

Destiny will almost certainly one-up Watch Dogs. Destiny X1 will > TF X! > WD X1. And PS4 Destiny will probably >>> TF/Destiny/WD X1 put together. The gap is too large, and will be bigger by Destiny launch.

Don't believe me yet? Watch the next NPD report. X1 will have a mediocre bump, but it's not enough to catch PS4. I drove to several GS today, and each one had $399 SKU sitting around not moving. Interestingly though (probably due to distribution gap?) only one of the stores had anything BESIDES the $399 SKU. I asked when they got their last Kinect SKU and it was about 6 WEEKS ago. And this is in a metro area of 7M+ people with a massive gaming crowd with high incomes.

Good news for people waiting on XB1 is that we will probably see a $349 Sunset Overdrive/Halo MCC bundle by black friday. With production limitations I COULD see XB1 = PS4 for Nov/Dec.