Vita TV pushes vita out of the handheld territory and into the Microconsole territory. While in Japan that may not work, in the U.S this is a huge set up. Competing against the Smartphones in the U.S, no chance, but at 99$ it can hit with the casuals, and completly outspec the competition while being at price parity allready sans (memcard). For anyone new in PS ecosystem its a must buy, and it makes the PS3 completely obsolete. In tandem with a PS4, it allows play from ps1 to ps4 games, and its a lot easier to move then a PC or PS3.

500$ makes PS4 full backwards compatible in contrast 500$ gives you a neat camera on the Xbox One. Vita TV is cheaper than the 2DS, let alone the Wii U, yet its library dwarfs all other consoles, home or handheld this generation.

The only way it'll flop is if Sony doesn't market it correctly. Its also a better entry system then even Nintendo is offering, it could blow  up in the US

It's not important it's not like Playstation tv will sold much

Would that make a slightly difference?

As I recall Vita TV bombed realy bad in Japan. And even the praised Fire TV, from Amazon, has not take off in the USA.

Japan and the US are polar opposites.

If market correctly, the Vita TV has no real competition, a library that dwarfs all other consoles this generation, and the cheapest price to boot (the 2DS cost more than the Vita TV)

Its the perfect entry System. Not to mention it can play PS4 games through remote play.

Why would Japan be any indication of how well its going to do in the U.S

It's called the Playstation TV now (or just in the west?), so I would say no. Either way doesn't make a difference to me because I already pre-ordered it on Amazon. I was really hoping they were going to announce that the Vita was going to get a patch to let it connect to my TV somehow, but they didn't. I guess I'll never own a Vita now.

Since it is technically Vita HW, it should be combined. I doubt it will matter too much, though. Not like it will all of a sudden start outselling the 3DS or anything. I do think it will do much better here than it did in Japan, though. But, that's only if they market it right. Advertise it mainly as a streaming app box, that can play Vita games and, more importantly, remote play PS4 games. The PS4 is hot in the US and EU, so having the ability to stream those games, plus PS Now games, to another TV will be a nice incentive to buy one. Though, I think most may wait for it to drop to $50-$80.

The stuff you're saying is all well and good but I think the market for the product already has multiple PS console. Old games aren't advertised anymore so it's only those who already know what old games were good that will be excited about this. Casuals are just going to be confused if they pick the thing up so I just don't see it happening. This is why it flopped in Japan IMO and I don't see the States being different. Perhaps, most damning of all, sony won't advertise it properly so I predict it would be discontinued in maximum 3 years.

It may actually be a bad idea to confuse consumers with yet another PS product. Right now, the PS3,4,and vita are sold in stores. Now there's PSTV

99% of all games playable on the Vita are compatible with the Vita TV, and all other features are also compatible. It's a consolized Vita, so it should be counted towards the Vita.

I don't see why PSTV sales shouldn't be counted for Vita. Unless you want a 0.01 marketshare bar next to PS4/X1/WiiU.

Yes: Same operational system, same games format, same games