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PwerlvlAmy on 05 June 2014

I know a lot of people who said they won't get this or get that and still end up buying it lol



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fps_d0minat0r on 05 June 2014
BMaker11 said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
BMaker11 said:

Your comment was clearly sarcasm making fun of the people who said they "weren't interested" because the number was "only 732", jesting that "MS better pack up since they missed out on those 732 sales". Completely ignoring that if 732 people out of 927 say they are "not interested", that is statistically significant and something to take into consideration. 

It wasn't a tangent, it was a direct reply to your blatant mockery. Don't play dumb. If you don't care about the accuracy of the pole or the sample size, you wouldn't have made that comment, because in terms of statistics, 732 is a LARGE number and nothing to be scoffed at. The physical 732 may not mean much, but the statistical extrapolation behind that does mean something, and with a sample size as large as 927, that extrapolation means a lot. You say the numbers are "irrelevant" and "meaningless" because you probably think the total number surveyed "isn't that much" so the results don't mean anything, right? But you are wrong. 

And I said Gallup, in name, because it's the most recognizable. But if you clicked the link, you'd see that there are dozens of trackers there, Gallup amongst them, and guess what? They all used similar sample sizes, some larger some smaller. All of them are within 3-5% margin of error extrapolating to 200M registered voters. I could have just as easily said "Rasmussen" or "CNN Opinion Poll" or "Wall Street Journal" and my point would have still been the same. There was no "championing". I just used a familiar name. 

For starters, lulz @ you trying to tell someone what their own post meant.

Secondly, please take a break and Google tangent. Now that you know what it means, yes, you quoted my post and went off on one. There are a few posts you could quote in the thread and rant away, mine was not one.

Lastly, you can bicker and defend statistics all you want, I am not trashing the article based on sample size. There are numerous problems with the pool of people they polled, no matter how big the sample size was. If I go to a gun convention and poll 2500 people about gun laws, it wouldn't make much sense for me to take that data and then say 95% of Americans believe we should be able to openly carry guns and blah blah. Furthermore, the issue is less with the poll and results themselves and more with the ridiculous title of the thread.

But feel free to continue arguing with yourself, since you sure aren't debating anything I have said in the posts you're quoting.

Just because I was a step ahead of you doesn't mean that you can double back and say "oh, that's not what I was talking about", because it was clear. It wasn't a tangent, it was a direct reply to sarcasm. Deal with it. I mean, how is "oh, they better pack it up since they missed out on those 732 sales" not sarcasm because that "amount is small"? If someone else hadn't thought it was sarcasm, you probably would have posted a "whoosh" pic or "your sarcasm meter is broken" reply.

And funny you should mention "going to a gun convention" as your comparison, because the poll even said "59% of 360 owners aren't interested". What kind of sample pool do you want to find out what 360 owners opinions are? Soccer moms?! This was a poll about gamers' opinions. So the poll should be by gamer survey (see title: 79% of gamers say they won't buy an Xbox One at $399, not 79% of Americans). "Going to a gun convention" and polling to see what gun owners feel about a new silencer should yield an accurate statistic about what gun owners feel about silencers. Just like TheSting said "ppl arent reading or fully understanding this survey"

yo @jlmurph2 go ahead and edit your response gif. It isn't relevant, since your boy here is still wrong




jlmurph2 on 05 June 2014
BMaker11 said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
BMaker11 said:

Your comment was clearly sarcasm making fun of the people who said they "weren't interested" because the number was "only 732", jesting that "MS better pack up since they missed out on those 732 sales". Completely ignoring that if 732 people out of 927 say they are "not interested", that is statistically significant and something to take into consideration. 

It wasn't a tangent, it was a direct reply to your blatant mockery. Don't play dumb. If you don't care about the accuracy of the pole or the sample size, you wouldn't have made that comment, because in terms of statistics, 732 is a LARGE number and nothing to be scoffed at. The physical 732 may not mean much, but the statistical extrapolation behind that does mean something, and with a sample size as large as 927, that extrapolation means a lot. You say the numbers are "irrelevant" and "meaningless" because you probably think the total number surveyed "isn't that much" so the results don't mean anything, right? But you are wrong. 

And I said Gallup, in name, because it's the most recognizable. But if you clicked the link, you'd see that there are dozens of trackers there, Gallup amongst them, and guess what? They all used similar sample sizes, some larger some smaller. All of them are within 3-5% margin of error extrapolating to 200M registered voters. I could have just as easily said "Rasmussen" or "CNN Opinion Poll" or "Wall Street Journal" and my point would have still been the same. There was no "championing". I just used a familiar name. 

For starters, lulz @ you trying to tell someone what their own post meant.

Secondly, please take a break and Google tangent. Now that you know what it means, yes, you quoted my post and went off on one. There are a few posts you could quote in the thread and rant away, mine was not one.

Lastly, you can bicker and defend statistics all you want, I am not trashing the article based on sample size. There are numerous problems with the pool of people they polled, no matter how big the sample size was. If I go to a gun convention and poll 2500 people about gun laws, it wouldn't make much sense for me to take that data and then say 95% of Americans believe we should be able to openly carry guns and blah blah. Furthermore, the issue is less with the poll and results themselves and more with the ridiculous title of the thread.

But feel free to continue arguing with yourself, since you sure aren't debating anything I have said in the posts you're quoting.

Just because I was a step ahead of you doesn't mean that you can double back and say "oh, that's not what I was talking about", because it was clear. It wasn't a tangent, it was a direct reply to sarcasm. Deal with it. I mean, how is "oh, they better pack it up since they missed out on those 732 sales" not sarcasm because that "amount is small"? If someone else hadn't thought it was sarcasm, you probably would have posted a "whoosh" pic or "your sarcasm meter is broken" reply.

And funny you should mention "going to a gun convention" as your comparison, because the poll even said "59% of 360 owners aren't interested". What kind of sample pool do you want to find out what 360 owners opinions are? Soccer moms?! This was a poll about gamers' opinions. So the poll should be by gamer survey (see title: 79% of gamers say they won't buy an Xbox One at $399, not 79% of Americans). "Going to a gun convention" and polling to see what gun owners feel about a new silencer should yield an accurate statistic about what gun owners feel about silencers. Just like TheSting said "ppl arent reading or fully understanding this survey"

yo @jlmurph2 go ahead and edit your response gif. It isn't relevant, since your boy here is still wrong




Lawlight on 05 June 2014

To be fair, most gamers buy a console when it's cheaper than $399 (except the WiiU).



AdventWolf on 05 June 2014

"79% Of The Small Group That Was Surveyed Say They Won't Buy Cheaper $399 Xbox One"



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phinch1 on 05 June 2014

Why would you?? Even at the same price you'd be getting the 900p resolution version of multiplat games, the weaker system, if your gonna fork out the 399 your going to make the smart choice, and go with the more powerful bigger community better,version of games console



tripenfall on 05 June 2014

82% of stats are bullshit



efilysp on 05 June 2014

Nice read.



GribbleGrunger on 05 June 2014
kowenicki said:
BMaker11 said:
sabastian said:
Those stats are horrid. But as someone else pointed out, it was with less that 1000 gamers surveyed, so yeh.

As I explained to LudicrousSpeed, 927 is more than adequate for an accurate survey. Population of 80M only needs 385 responses to be within 5% margin of error. Gallup "only" uses 2800 responses to gauge the opinions of 200M people and they're within 2% margin of error.

Awesome, thanks for clarifying.  41% of 360 said yes to this... thats incredible.  So, even before any more price cuts, 41% of  360 owners will buy the ONE.  Thats huge.  Amazing.

Seriously.  You did notice it said "are you MORE likely to buy at this price"  what was the percentage before?  For all we know it was 50% were likely to buy already, so a 21% increase takes us to 60%.  The survey is bogus, the question weak and the results flawed as a result.

Sample size is irrelevant if the question is a badly worded one.

Thanks.

But you wrote this above:

"kowenicki said:
These surveys are nonsense

There was a similar survey that said 70% of ps3 owners intended to buy a psv in the first 18 months..... And many other examples."



 

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fedfed on 05 June 2014

well 100 people are a lot if you consider XB360 user base in jp.

Just joking however; bad publicity like this is not good. MS will need to WOW people to sell X1 - Halo 5 will do the rest to their fan base.



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