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jamesmarkus87 said:
And oh, the hypocrisy. Sony was praised for giving up on Move while Microsoft is being shunned for giving up on Kinect?

Move wasn't packed in with every PS4, was said to "essential to the PS4 experience", and that "Move is PS4, PS4 is move. They aren't separate systems. You have the RAM, Move, CPU, graphics card, disc drive HDD. They all make up the PS4". Move wasn't the vision for the PS4 this gen. Kinect was the vision for the XBone this gen. 

Apples to oranges comparison, my friend



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jamesmarkus87 said:
Poor Xbox One. It just had a $100 price cut, and yet it's now selling EVEN LESS than it did when it was $499 w/ Kinect.


It actually hasnt had the price cut yet.  That is happening mid june, they just announced that they are cutting the price... Which is one reason why it shouldnt be surprising that it is selling less...



Uddermode said:

I was never a fan of Microsoft but when they announced the kinectless Xbox one I knew I made the right choice in not supporting their consoles. Why would I want to buy a console where the producer may just abandon it because of poor sales. At least Nintendo has the balls to stay with something until the end.


You can still buy an xbox with Kinect. Nothing has been abandoned.



Getting an XBOX One for me is like being in a bad relationship but staying together because we have kids. XBone we have 20000+ achievement points, 2+ years of XBL Gold and 20000+ MS points. I think its best we stay together if only for the MS points.

Nintendo Treehouse is what happens when a publisher is confident and proud of its games and doesn't need to show CGI lies for five minutes.

-Jim Sterling

21% bump is pretty massive, what the fuck are you talking about?

And that percentage will only continue to grow as it gets more exclusives and further price drops.

It'll never match the PS4 worldwide, but it's not a piece of shit Wii U with no games either. It'll do well for itself and have lots of great exclusives in the long run.

 

Moderated - Kresnik.



thismeintiel said:
Doesn't surprise me, given the low positions on Amazon and Gamestop. I think the One would have to be $50 less than the PS4 to have any real impact.


Agreed. The position is really low to see this have version a meaningful impact.



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BMaker11 said:

Your comment was clearly sarcasm making fun of the people who said they "weren't interested" because the number was "only 732", jesting that "MS better pack up since they missed out on those 732 sales". Completely ignoring that if 732 people out of 927 say they are "not interested", that is statistically significant and something to take into consideration. 

It wasn't a tangent, it was a direct reply to your blatant mockery. Don't play dumb. If you don't care about the accuracy of the pole or the sample size, you wouldn't have made that comment, because in terms of statistics, 732 is a LARGE number and nothing to be scoffed at. The physical 732 may not mean much, but the statistical extrapolation behind that does mean something, and with a sample size as large as 927, that extrapolation means a lot. You say the numbers are "irrelevant" and "meaningless" because you probably think the total number surveyed "isn't that much" so the results don't mean anything, right? But you are wrong. 

And I said Gallup, in name, because it's the most recognizable. But if you clicked the link, you'd see that there are dozens of trackers there, Gallup amongst them, and guess what? They all used similar sample sizes, some larger some smaller. All of them are within 3-5% margin of error extrapolating to 200M registered voters. I could have just as easily said "Rasmussen" or "CNN Opinion Poll" or "Wall Street Journal" and my point would have still been the same. There was no "championing". I just used a familiar name. 

For starters, lulz @ you trying to tell someone what their own post meant.

Secondly, please take a break and Google tangent. Now that you know what it means, yes, you quoted my post and went off on one. There are a few posts you could quote in the thread and rant away, mine was not one.

Lastly, you can bicker and defend statistics all you want, I am not trashing the article based on sample size. There are numerous problems with the pool of people they polled, no matter how big the sample size was. If I go to a gun convention and poll 2500 people about gun laws, it wouldn't make much sense for me to take that data and then say 95% of Americans believe we should be able to openly carry guns and blah blah. Furthermore, the issue is less with the poll and results themselves and more with the ridiculous title of the thread.

But feel free to continue arguing with yourself, since you sure aren't debating anything I have said in the posts you're quoting.



It's because PS4 is the new kool kid in town. It's the console everyone wants even if it's got no games.



LudicrousSpeed said:
BMaker11 said:

Your comment was clearly sarcasm making fun of the people who said they "weren't interested" because the number was "only 732", jesting that "MS better pack up since they missed out on those 732 sales". Completely ignoring that if 732 people out of 927 say they are "not interested", that is statistically significant and something to take into consideration. 

It wasn't a tangent, it was a direct reply to your blatant mockery. Don't play dumb. If you don't care about the accuracy of the pole or the sample size, you wouldn't have made that comment, because in terms of statistics, 732 is a LARGE number and nothing to be scoffed at. The physical 732 may not mean much, but the statistical extrapolation behind that does mean something, and with a sample size as large as 927, that extrapolation means a lot. You say the numbers are "irrelevant" and "meaningless" because you probably think the total number surveyed "isn't that much" so the results don't mean anything, right? But you are wrong. 

And I said Gallup, in name, because it's the most recognizable. But if you clicked the link, you'd see that there are dozens of trackers there, Gallup amongst them, and guess what? They all used similar sample sizes, some larger some smaller. All of them are within 3-5% margin of error extrapolating to 200M registered voters. I could have just as easily said "Rasmussen" or "CNN Opinion Poll" or "Wall Street Journal" and my point would have still been the same. There was no "championing". I just used a familiar name. 

For starters, lulz @ you trying to tell someone what their own post meant.

Secondly, please take a break and Google tangent. Now that you know what it means, yes, you quoted my post and went off on one. There are a few posts you could quote in the thread and rant away, mine was not one.

Lastly, you can bicker and defend statistics all you want, I am not trashing the article based on sample size. There are numerous problems with the pool of people they polled, no matter how big the sample size was. If I go to a gun convention and poll 2500 people about gun laws, it wouldn't make much sense for me to take that data and then say 95% of Americans believe we should be able to openly carry guns and blah blah. Furthermore, the issue is less with the poll and results themselves and more with the ridiculous title of the thread.

But feel free to continue arguing with yourself, since you sure aren't debating anything I have said in the posts you're quoting.




LudicrousSpeed said:
BMaker11 said:

Your comment was clearly sarcasm making fun of the people who said they "weren't interested" because the number was "only 732", jesting that "MS better pack up since they missed out on those 732 sales". Completely ignoring that if 732 people out of 927 say they are "not interested", that is statistically significant and something to take into consideration. 

It wasn't a tangent, it was a direct reply to your blatant mockery. Don't play dumb. If you don't care about the accuracy of the pole or the sample size, you wouldn't have made that comment, because in terms of statistics, 732 is a LARGE number and nothing to be scoffed at. The physical 732 may not mean much, but the statistical extrapolation behind that does mean something, and with a sample size as large as 927, that extrapolation means a lot. You say the numbers are "irrelevant" and "meaningless" because you probably think the total number surveyed "isn't that much" so the results don't mean anything, right? But you are wrong. 

And I said Gallup, in name, because it's the most recognizable. But if you clicked the link, you'd see that there are dozens of trackers there, Gallup amongst them, and guess what? They all used similar sample sizes, some larger some smaller. All of them are within 3-5% margin of error extrapolating to 200M registered voters. I could have just as easily said "Rasmussen" or "CNN Opinion Poll" or "Wall Street Journal" and my point would have still been the same. There was no "championing". I just used a familiar name. 

For starters, lulz @ you trying to tell someone what their own post meant.

Secondly, please take a break and Google tangent. Now that you know what it means, yes, you quoted my post and went off on one. There are a few posts you could quote in the thread and rant away, mine was not one.

Lastly, you can bicker and defend statistics all you want, I am not trashing the article based on sample size. There are numerous problems with the pool of people they polled, no matter how big the sample size was. If I go to a gun convention and poll 2500 people about gun laws, it wouldn't make much sense for me to take that data and then say 95% of Americans believe we should be able to openly carry guns and blah blah. Furthermore, the issue is less with the poll and results themselves and more with the ridiculous title of the thread.

But feel free to continue arguing with yourself, since you sure aren't debating anything I have said in the posts you're quoting.

Just because I was a step ahead of you doesn't mean that you can double back and say "oh, that's not what I was talking about", because it was clear. It wasn't a tangent, it was a direct reply to sarcasm. Deal with it. I mean, how is "oh, they better pack it up since they missed out on those 732 sales" not sarcasm because that "amount is small"? If someone else hadn't thought it was sarcasm, you probably would have posted a "whoosh" pic or "your sarcasm meter is broken" reply.

And funny you should mention "going to a gun convention" as your comparison, because the poll even said "59% of 360 owners aren't interested". What kind of sample pool do you want to find out what 360 owners opinions are? Soccer moms?! This was a poll about gamers' opinions. So the poll should be by gamer survey (see title: 79% of gamers say they won't buy an Xbox One at $399, not 79% of Americans). "Going to a gun convention" and polling to see what gun owners feel about a new silencer should yield an accurate statistic about what gun owners feel about silencers. Just like TheSting said "ppl arent reading or fully understanding this survey"

yo @jlmurph2 go ahead and edit your response gif. It isn't relevant, since your boy here is still wrong



I'll have to question that survey. I'm going to get it,just a matter of when.