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walsufnir on 06 June 2014
bubblegamer said:
walsufnir said:


Was it? Based on the big screenshot comparison with the highly compressed images side by side and the fanboy comments below?


What would a neutral party like yuourself base it on?


Instead of a neutral party like you believing in crappy comparisons I would prefer a comparison by a legit source like DF...



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bubblegamer on 06 June 2014
walsufnir said:
bubblegamer said:
walsufnir said:


Was it? Based on the big screenshot comparison with the highly compressed images side by side and the fanboy comments below?


What would a neutral party like yuourself base it on?


Instead of a neutral party like you believing in crappy comparisons I would prefer a comparison by a legit source like DF...

And where would one find this? Under the article "top 10 downgrades of all time" i trust you would sigh how boring a topic like that is.



walsufnir on 06 June 2014
bubblegamer said:
walsufnir said:
bubblegamer said:
walsufnir said:


Was it? Based on the big screenshot comparison with the highly compressed images side by side and the fanboy comments below?


What would a neutral party like yuourself base it on?


Instead of a neutral party like you believing in crappy comparisons I would prefer a comparison by a legit source like DF...

And where would one find this? Under the article "top 10 downgrades of all time" i trust you would sigh how boring a topic like that is.


I see there is no sense in further talking to you about this topic and this only proves my point that the famous comparison image is as crap as it was the day it was released and people took it for sure. Not saying there aren't any downgrades in this game but taking this particular image doesn't help in proving where the downgrades are.



bubblegamer on 06 June 2014
walsufnir said



 

 

 

I see there is no sense in further talking to you about this topic and this only proves my point that the famous comparison image is as crap as it was the day it was released and people took it for sure. Not saying there aren't any downgrades in this game but taking this particular image doesn't help in proving where the downgrades are.

I for one have never seen any sense in your comments, as they are as biased as can be, so don't mind if i respectfully ignore them and remain by my original point. I trust you won't disagree to me voicing my view?



walsufnir on 06 June 2014
bubblegamer said:
walsufnir said

I see there is no sense in further talking to you about this topic and this only proves my point that the famous comparison image is as crap as it was the day it was released and people took it for sure. Not saying there aren't any downgrades in this game but taking this particular image doesn't help in proving where the downgrades are.

I for one have never seen any sense in your comments, as they are as biased as can be, so don't mind if i respectfully ignore them and remain by my original point. I trust you won't disagree to me voicing my view?


So as you are taking it now only on a personal level, have a good day, sir.



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SWORDF1SH on 06 June 2014
curl-6 said:
SvennoJ said:
curl-6 said:

The final game has a more striking style due to its heavy use of filters, shiny surfaces, and glare, but beyond these flashier aesthetics, things like animation and alpha/particles are far simpler.

Yup, they used what they had in '05 to spice things up, the flame effects look pretty dumb though. 05 has the smoke effects turned up to the max to hide the rather simple lighting. Animation is all tailor made for the trailer, it's one long cutscene as they admitted.

It's a bullshot trailer, as any trailer is years before release. Still the final game looks more pleasing despite less smoke effects and stitched together animations. The trailer looks even more grey and a bit cartoony in a way, not fitting the style of the final game. It would make an interesting looking game too.

To each their own in terms of the art direction I guess. 

This might help. There are some things where the 05 trailer looks better but the playable code also does a lot of things better. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=170717



bubblegamer on 06 June 2014
walsufnir said:
bubblegamer said:
walsufnir said

I see there is no sense in further talking to you about this topic and this only proves my point that the famous comparison image is as crap as it was the day it was released and people took it for sure. Not saying there aren't any downgrades in this game but taking this particular image doesn't help in proving where the downgrades are.

I for one have never seen any sense in your comments, as they are as biased as can be, so don't mind if i respectfully ignore them and remain by my original point. I trust you won't disagree to me voicing my view?


So as you are taking it now only on a personal level, have a good day, sir.


I could sigh at this comment, but i'm not surprised at the constant slew of assumptions. Enough has been said so good day indeed.



walsufnir on 06 June 2014
SWORDF1SH said:
curl-6 said:
SvennoJ said:
curl-6 said:

The final game has a more striking style due to its heavy use of filters, shiny surfaces, and glare, but beyond these flashier aesthetics, things like animation and alpha/particles are far simpler.

Yup, they used what they had in '05 to spice things up, the flame effects look pretty dumb though. 05 has the smoke effects turned up to the max to hide the rather simple lighting. Animation is all tailor made for the trailer, it's one long cutscene as they admitted.

It's a bullshot trailer, as any trailer is years before release. Still the final game looks more pleasing despite less smoke effects and stitched together animations. The trailer looks even more grey and a bit cartoony in a way, not fitting the style of the final game. It would make an interesting looking game too.

To each their own in terms of the art direction I guess. 

This might help. There are some things where the 05 trailer looks better but the playable code also does a lot of things better. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=170717


The thread you posted is quite exactly a repitition of this thread - some say equal, some say cg-trailer was better.



fps_d0minat0r on 06 June 2014
walsufnir said:
bubblegamer said:
Justagamer said:
Motor storm reveal trailer was another serious bullshot. The final release was nowhere near the trailer.


What about the last Forza? That was the worst downgrade i've yet to see.


Was it? Based on the big screenshot comparison with the highly compressed images side by side and the fanboy comments below?


lol you think the massive difference is accounted by image compression?

Why would you even use the word fanboy in the same sentence?



walsufnir on 06 June 2014
fps_d0minat0r said:
walsufnir said:
bubblegamer said:
Justagamer said:
Motor storm reveal trailer was another serious bullshot. The final release was nowhere near the trailer.


What about the last Forza? That was the worst downgrade i've yet to see.


Was it? Based on the big screenshot comparison with the highly compressed images side by side and the fanboy comments below?


lol you think the massive difference is accounted by image compression?

Why would you even use the word fanboy in the same sentence?


Did you actually read the text below the comparison? And I am saying that if you want to prove a massive difference choosing low-quality compressed images is definitely the wrong way.