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DarkRPGamer007 on 31 May 2014

Look them up as developers as you can I bet Nintendo's is way higher



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fluky-nintendy on 31 May 2014

The impression I had reading the OP, he/she is making some good advertising! But it's okay I guess. And besides the fact that people will buy the U with the game is up to their personal preferences. I have nothing else to add to the discussion.



...Let the Sony Domination continue with the PS4...
Torillian on 31 May 2014
DarkRPGamer007 said:

Look them up as developers as you can I bet Nintendo's is way higher


You would bet?  but have no evidence for this overall effect one way or the other?  

Great, nevermind then, I have no desire to work at bringing evidence to an argument you have no desire to do the same for.  



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Torillian on 31 May 2014
VanceIX said:
Torillian said:

The part that's idiotic is talking about it as though it's indisputable.  The only things that are indisputable are facts, and what console has the "best" library is an opinion.  If I tell you that my desk is 47 inches x 32" that would be a fact (and a made up giant desk), but if I tell you my desk is the "best" on the market that's an opinion.  Now if I tell you that my desk is the best on the market, period, or that it's undebatable then I have turned an opinion into a fact.  

You can have evidence that your opinion is held by the bulk of the population, but you cannot prove an opinion as a fact.  

Let me ammend my words, I said it was an undeniable fact, but nothing is truly undeniable. You can deny that gravity exists. It is a fact however. Same applies here. The Wii U has been out longer and has gotten much more first-party support than either console due to its time on the market, hence it has the stronger library.

You still aren't getting the difference between an opinion and a fact.  Gravity's existence is not an opinion.  If I said "gravity is the best of the four fundamental forces of nature" that would be an opinion.  Seriously, do you see the difference here?



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xl-klaudkil on 31 May 2014

If you would be interested in another mario kart game yes.
sadly iam not.



 

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torok on 31 May 2014
aikohualda said:
if someone say 1080p i will eat a baby turtle just like jizz beard


4K. This means you have to eat a full adult giant turtle.



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Faust on 31 May 2014
DarkRPGamer007 said:

But, but the Sony exclusive not made by Naughty Dog are essentially WORTHLESS! Don't believe me look it up. About one in ten Sony exclusives are lower rated than Nintendo games unless it's Naughty Dog quality. Minus Knack


i 'll tell you a little secret

 

Are you ready?

 

Is easier to aim for a higher score with less ambitious kind of games (not neccessarily a bad thing), since those are judged by different standars and Nintendo's games fall in this "category". 

 

Nah...maybe im wrong and you are right, Limbo and Super meat boy are both better games than MK8 ;)



VanceIX on 31 May 2014
Torillian said:
VanceIX said:
Torillian said:

The part that's idiotic is talking about it as though it's indisputable.  The only things that are indisputable are facts, and what console has the "best" library is an opinion.  If I tell you that my desk is 47 inches x 32" that would be a fact (and a made up giant desk), but if I tell you my desk is the "best" on the market that's an opinion.  Now if I tell you that my desk is the best on the market, period, or that it's undebatable then I have turned an opinion into a fact.  

You can have evidence that your opinion is held by the bulk of the population, but you cannot prove an opinion as a fact.  

Let me ammend my words, I said it was an undeniable fact, but nothing is truly undeniable. You can deny that gravity exists. It is a fact however. Same applies here. The Wii U has been out longer and has gotten much more first-party support than either console due to its time on the market, hence it has the stronger library.

You still aren't getting the difference between an opinion and a fact.  Gravity's existence is not an opinion.  If I said "gravity is the best of the four fundamental forces of nature" that would be an opinion.  Seriously, do you see the difference here?

No, a fact can be proven by evidence, and that's what I did with the Wii U's library of games by comparing amount of retail games, user-review averages, and critic-scores. Those are all solid numerical values. If you just say the PS4 has a better library because you like it, OK, that's an opinion. If you were able to prove that it did through solid evidence like Metacritic scores, user averages, amount of games available, etc. it could become a fact.

And gravity is in fact a theory, as everything might be, because people dispute it all the time. Doesn't make it any less true, as most would agree that gravity exists. 



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DevilRising on 31 May 2014

@OP

You make some very good points, which I do partially agree with.

However, as great as MK8 is, I'm not sure I'd quite crown it the best in the franchise, myself. Mainly on account of them totally (lazily) phoning in the Battle Mode. I love the rest of the game, for the most part, and you're right about most of what you say about it. BUT, the seriously "I can't believe they'd be that lazy about it" Battle Mode they tacked on, really sucks. IF they had actually bothered to put some effort into it (even if it only had a few arenas, like Block Fort), or had at least handed it off to one of their development partners to do the Battle Mode while they focused on the rest of the game, IF they had bothered to make at least a decent, REAL Battle Mode, that would have put the game over the top from "very good" to "fucking great", to me at least.



Torillian on 31 May 2014
VanceIX said:
Torillian said:

You still aren't getting the difference between an opinion and a fact.  Gravity's existence is not an opinion.  If I said "gravity is the best of the four fundamental forces of nature" that would be an opinion.  Seriously, do you see the difference here?

No, a fact can be proven by evidence, and that's what I did with the Wii U's library of games by comparing amount of retail games, user-review averages, and critic-scores. Those are all solid numerical values. If you just say the PS4 has a better library because you like it, OK, that's an opinion. If you were able to prove that it did through solid evidence like Metacritic scores, user averages, amount of games available, etc. it could become a fact.

And gravity is in fact a theory, as everything might be, because people dispute it all the time. Doesn't make it any less true, as most would agree that gravity exists. 


Sorry man, I'm out, the idea that you're equating denying WiiU has the better library to denying gravity is just too much for me.  Go ahead and call all your opinions facts, fuck it. 



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