Even tough PSVita is doomed, with only Japan and a little europe it may keep ahead of both (kinectless x1 may greatly dumper bundle version). What are your toughs?

If you think they will overtake, how long for it to happen?

Complete toss up, Vita should have a steady life in Japan, is on lifeline in the US, and not sure about Europe. None of them will be massively far from one another when the generation ends.

TBH, There is a chance tht WiiU will surpass Vita this year, but only if Sony doesn't do anything betterthan last year for the second half of the year.

We have WiiU about right here (maybe 10k-50k overtracked), but with vita it should be heavily overtracked (nothing like 3ds million Overtracked, but maybe somewhere between 200k-500k).

As for Kinectless X1, definitely but not anytime soon. Its at 0 and it would need to sell 10mil+ which isnt happening anytime soon.

tbone51 said: TBH, There is a chance tht WiiU will surpass Vita this year, but only if Sony doesn't do anything betterthan last year for the second half of the year. We have WiiU about right here (maybe 10k-50k overtracked), but with vita it should be heavily overtracked (nothing like 3ds million Overtracked, but maybe somewhere between 200k-500k). As for Kinectless X1, definitely but not anytime soon. Its at 0 and it would need to sell 10mil+ which isnt happening anytime soon.

No there isn't. According to Nintendo, WiiU isn't even going to hit 9.5m sell through by the end of this year (and they overestimate a lot). PSV is at 8.2m, did 2.2m~ from June - December last year. It can drop to half that and still hit 9.5m.

http://www.vgchartz.com/tools/hw_yoy.php?reg=Global&start_year=2012&end_year=2014&console=PSV

It's trending similar to last year so far as well.

Maybe they will all end up in the 20-30k nimbo or lower?

Kinect X1 not the kinectless (I think it will sell better than the kinect edition and probably above psv

Wii U safe at 99,9999999%
XO Kinect i don't think, for me XO will sold 50,000,000.
And only 15,000,000 buy a Kinect
For me PSVita sold minimum 20,000,000, maximum 25,000,000.

drake_tolu said: Wii U safe at 99,9999999% XO Kinect i don't think, for me XO will sold 50,000,000. And only 15,000,000 buy a Kinect For me PSVita sold minimum 20,000,000, maximum 25,000,000.

How exactly and at what point do you expect WiiU to start selling something like 8m a year?

Add to that, Nintendo consoles have not had the best of legs for a long long time.

Seece said: drake_tolu said: Wii U safe at 99,9999999% XO Kinect i don't think, for me XO will sold 50,000,000. And only 15,000,000 buy a Kinect For me PSVita sold minimum 20,000,000, maximum 25,000,000. How exactly and at what point do you expect WiiU to start selling something like 8m a year? Add to that, Nintendo consoles have not had the best of legs for a long long time.

WTF??? .___."

I said XBOX ONE WILL SOLD 50,000,000 NOT WII U.

drake_tolu said: Seece said: drake_tolu said: Wii U safe at 99,9999999% XO Kinect i don't think, for me XO will sold 50,000,000. And only 15,000,000 buy a Kinect For me PSVita sold minimum 20,000,000, maximum 25,000,000. How exactly and at what point do you expect WiiU to start selling something like 8m a year? Add to that, Nintendo consoles have not had the best of legs for a long long time. WTF??? .___." I said XBOX ONE WILL SOLD 50,000,000 NOT WII U.

You said WiiU has it on lock, given you think Vita is going to sell 25m as a top range, you must expect much higher than currently average WiiU sales, I mean have you actually done any sums (Doesn't seem to be much logic involved ..)

Seece said: tbone51 said: TBH, There is a chance tht WiiU will surpass Vita this year, but only if Sony doesn't do anything betterthan last year for the second half of the year. We have WiiU about right here (maybe 10k-50k overtracked), but with vita it should be heavily overtracked (nothing like 3ds million Overtracked, but maybe somewhere between 200k-500k). As for Kinectless X1, definitely but not anytime soon. Its at 0 and it would need to sell 10mil+ which isnt happening anytime soon. No there isn't. According to Nintendo, WiiU isn't even going to hit 9.5m sell through by the end of this year (and they overestimate a lot). PSV is at 8.2m, did 2.2m~ from June - December last year. It can drop to half that and still hit 9.5m. http://www.vgchartz.com/tools/hw_yoy.php?reg=Global&start_year=2012&end_year=2014&console=PSV It's trending similar to last year so far as well.

ok but does that mean wiiu is set in stone to be under that? No. Like I said Vita is overtracked here by quite alot. They both by years end can end between 9.0mil-11mil, if the companies push hard enough.

Just cuz one expectations are this number, they might just do that to make themselves look better, it has happened many times before in different situations. Ex: MH4 was expected to sell 2.5mil units in 6 months, it did that in 3 or 4 weeks.

"It's trending similar to last year so far as well." Its good to look at info such as this but dont forget, little things can change. remember 3DS in Apr?