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FIT_Gamer on 21 May 2014
TheDrill said:
Arkaign said:
We're due for vgc to fix their method of approximating their xb1 numbers going forward. Overdue in fact considering the massive failure in accuracy. What will people do with no more broken numbers to pin their hopes on? :)


people are blowing out of proportion the inaccuracy of VGchartz.

Their numbers are respectable.


Overtracking XBO numbers by 100k is hardly respectable.



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Aura7541 on 21 May 2014
TheDrill said:
Arkaign said:
We're due for vgc to fix their method of approximating their xb1 numbers going forward. Overdue in fact considering the massive failure in accuracy. What will people do with no more broken numbers to pin their hopes on? :)


people are blowing out of proportion the inaccuracy of VGchartz.

Their numbers are respectable.

Constantly overtracking the X1 and undertracking the PS4 are hardly respectable. Overtracking the X1 in April by almost 100% is egregious.

You really need to get your head out of the sand and start facing the facts. Your console of preference is struggling and even in its strongest market, it is getting significantly outsold by its competitor.



Aura7541 on 21 May 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:

The following that Sony and Microsoft offer their products to are quite similar and Microsoft took from the Sony grew from the post SNES era gamers who mostly enjoyed multiplat gaming. They like exclusives but they love the variety that third party bring as well. The only reason the 360 enjoyed such a solid lead were because of four +things:

1) One year head start
2) blocking or getting timed exclusivity off third party exclusives from Sony in the first couple years.
3) Taking Japanese third party from Sony and putting them on their brand in the west as to avoid bias from Otaku (Japanese product prone people who like Manga, anime and japanese made games.).

4)Price

If Microsoft can offer a product that focuses mostly on third party, proper multimedia and os (like Sony) the consumer will primarily look at price. This is what made the 360 so great. They perfected all of the things Sony has been striving for themselves (except the hardware and actual game development ability).

Once this was accomplished the Kinect saved them from defeat.


MICROSOFT KNOWS THAT IF THEY LAUNCHED WITH SONY THAT THEY CANNOT WIN.

This is why they risked the integrity of the 360 and so many of their consoles failed. They didn't care about the product, they were so desperate to beat Sony that they laucnhed it anyway.

Sony impressed the US market by finishing strong with the PS3. They will carry Sony to victory no different than the rest of the world did last gen. Even if Sony sells ten million more in the us than Microsoft their fate is sealed for a victory.

I think RROD was also responsible. Microsoft didn't offer warranties to cover RROD repair costs until July 2007. They also admitted that over 11.6 million of the 360's sold in between launch to July 2007 were faulty. That's too large of a number to ignore.



S.T.A.G.E. on 21 May 2014
Aura7541 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

The following that Sony and Microsoft offer their products to are quite similar and Microsoft took from the Sony grew from the post SNES era gamers who mostly enjoyed multiplat gaming. They like exclusives but they love the variety that third party bring as well. The only reason the 360 enjoyed such a solid lead were because of four +things:

1) One year head start
2) blocking or getting timed exclusivity off third party exclusives from Sony in the first couple years.
3) Taking Japanese third party from Sony and putting them on their brand in the west as to avoid bias from Otaku (Japanese product prone people who like Manga, anime and japanese made games.).

4)Price

If Microsoft can offer a product that focuses mostly on third party, proper multimedia and os (like Sony) the consumer will primarily look at price. This is what made the 360 so great. They perfected all of the things Sony has been striving for themselves (except the hardware and actual game development ability).

Once this was accomplished the Kinect saved them from defeat.


MICROSOFT KNOWS THAT IF THEY LAUNCHED WITH SONY THAT THEY CANNOT WIN.

This is why they risked the integrity of the 360 and so many of their consoles failed. They didn't care about the product, they were so desperate to beat Sony that they laucnhed it anyway.

Sony impressed the US market by finishing strong with the PS3. They will carry Sony to victory no different than the rest of the world did last gen. Even if Sony sells ten million more in the us than Microsoft their fate is sealed for a victory.

I think RROD was also responsible. Microsoft didn't offer warranties to cover RROD repair costs until July 2007. They also admitted that over 11.6 million of the 360's sold in between launch to July 2007 were faulty. That's too large of a number to ignore.


Exactly. Thats one of the largest failure rates in the history of gaming. They had to beat Sony to the market because they didnt want to launch with Sony.  They knew that first impressions are everything and they won the first impression but killed it with a faulty product. I can't even begin to count the amount of people that I know that have gone through three to five xboxes. I am willing to bet that at least a quarter of Xbox sales before 2010 were attributed alone to former RROD victims who ran out of their warranty even after Microsoft initiated the three year warranty for people after 2007 . Not only that, but people paid once more to upgrade to the newer version of the slim through discounts from trading in their former Xbox fan. Nickel and diming coldnt even begin to cover it for how much they made people spend for the console alone.



TheDrill on 22 May 2014
Aura7541 said:
TheDrill said:
Arkaign said:
We're due for vgc to fix their method of approximating their xb1 numbers going forward. Overdue in fact considering the massive failure in accuracy. What will people do with no more broken numbers to pin their hopes on? :)


people are blowing out of proportion the inaccuracy of VGchartz.

Their numbers are respectable.

Constantly overtracking the X1 and undertracking the PS4 are hardly respectable. Overtracking the X1 in April by almost 100% is egregious.

You really need to get your head out of the sand and start facing the facts. Your console of preference is struggling and even in its strongest market, it is getting significantly outsold by its competitor.


11 % is not significant. 



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DonFerrari on 22 May 2014
TheDrill said:
Aura7541 said:
TheDrill said:
Arkaign said:
We're due for vgc to fix their method of approximating their xb1 numbers going forward. Overdue in fact considering the massive failure in accuracy. What will people do with no more broken numbers to pin their hopes on? :)


people are blowing out of proportion the inaccuracy of VGchartz.

Their numbers are respectable.

Constantly overtracking the X1 and undertracking the PS4 are hardly respectable. Overtracking the X1 in April by almost 100% is egregious.

You really need to get your head out of the sand and start facing the facts. Your console of preference is struggling and even in its strongest market, it is getting significantly outsold by its competitor.


11 % is not significant. 

You are the only one believing in this 11% and that is your assumed difference not accuracy. We have gave you various stances of discrepancies. But you prove vgc is accurate because their number "seems rigth" but don't have any proof.

Don't take it personally but you seem like your nick, you keep spinning the same point over and over even though proved wrong. In yours master degree when your mentor corrected you what have you done? Kept refusing to accept?





duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

TheDrill on 22 May 2014
DonFerrari said:
TheDrill said:
Aura7541 said:
TheDrill said:
Arkaign said:
We're due for vgc to fix their method of approximating their xb1 numbers going forward. Overdue in fact considering the massive failure in accuracy. What will people do with no more broken numbers to pin their hopes on? :)


people are blowing out of proportion the inaccuracy of VGchartz.

Their numbers are respectable.

Constantly overtracking the X1 and undertracking the PS4 are hardly respectable. Overtracking the X1 in April by almost 100% is egregious.

You really need to get your head out of the sand and start facing the facts. Your console of preference is struggling and even in its strongest market, it is getting significantly outsold by its competitor.


11 % is not significant. 

You are the only one believing in this 11% and that is your assumed difference not accuracy. We have gave you various stances of discrepancies. But you prove vgc is accurate because their number "seems rigth" but don't have any proof.

Don't take it personally but you seem like your nick, you keep spinning the same point over and over even though proved wrong. In yours master degree when your mentor corrected you what have you done? Kept refusing to accept?

I can refuse to accept your numbers simply from your lack of proper english, it's enough proof for me.

Also I wasn't present any proof, just a claim that NPD numbers are better



Burek on 22 May 2014
TheDrill said:

I can refuse to accept your numbers simply from your lack of proper english, it's enough proof for me.

Also I wasn't present any proof, just a claim that NPD numbers are better

Oh, the irony....

Words escape me...



TheDrill on 22 May 2014
Burek said:
TheDrill said:

I can refuse to accept your numbers simply from your lack of proper english, it's enough proof for me.

Also I wasn't present any proof, just a claim that NPD numbers are better

Oh, the irony....

Words escape me...


Please enlighten me, oh wise one.



bubblegamer on 22 May 2014
Burek said:
TheDrill said:

I can refuse to accept your numbers simply from your lack of proper english, it's enough proof for me.

Also I wasn't present any proof, just a claim that NPD numbers are better

Oh, the irony....

Words escape me...

lol