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Shinobi-san said:
NobleTeam360 said:
Shinobi-san said:
NobleTeam360 said:
So people complain about Kinect being included for a whole year and then they remove and now people complain MS is giving up on Kinect? Their truly is no pleasing some of you guys. MS could give the Xbox One away for free and people would find something to complain about.


It probably isnt the same people Noble. Not everybody wanted MS to remove Kinect. There was a fair amount of people who thought Kinect was a key part of MS's strategy.

I can gurantee that there is quite a few hypocrites who just changed up their story. I know not everyone thought that way. ^_^

Tell me who?! I want to know!!

Youtube posters and IGN comment section. Not really reffering to VGChartz users lol.



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Machiavellian said:
Shinobi-san said:
kowenicki said:
Shortiloe said:
lawl, Launch-buyers are fucked and I guess very pissed, if that happens.


why?

I'm happy as a pig in shit and love my kinect enabled xbox.


You really dont see the reason why some early adopters would be pissed?

No, I do not see why any early adopter would be pissed.  Its the reason you are a early adopter.  For people that purchased a X1, with the knowledge that sales were not that great, why would you be pissed.  If you did not have the patience to wait then the only only person to be pissed at is yourself.

Reason I have not bought a X1 or PS4 is because I can easily wait.  Nothing screams purchase me now from any of those consoles.  I personally will wait until Christmas when the deals come out because neither system has anything coming until that time which would make me drop 400-500 bones for the pleasure of a incomplete system.

Some people would have bought X1 for titanfall, forza, Ryse etc. they might not necessarily have wanted the Kinect and wanted to pay the additional cost. But they didnt have a choice. And yes ofcourse they could have waited but that doesnt mean that some will be pissed.

This is common knowledge to me.

Also, people are early adopters for their own reasons. Hardcore gamers who are die hard Xbox fans, and have no interest in Kinect could possibly be feeling pissed. To say that you cant see a reason why anyone would be pissed is silly.



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hinch said:
Machiavellian said:
Bail said:


Translation for y'all : "Starting 09/06 : PS4 remains the same "

EDIT : here's the link  

Sometimes tweats should be thought out more.  Saying the PS4 remains the same really isn't something to brag about.  It means the PS4 is not progressing or evolving but staying static while the competition is adding more value and incentives to the consumer.  Thats one of those arogant tweats that made Sony look bad at the beginning of the PS3 era and does not sound good if Sony is smelling their success to much.

How exactly are they arrogant? There's still stong demand for the PS4 in most parts of the world, so no need for Sony to drop the price if people are happy paying for it.

Microsoft are having a harder time selling Xbox Ones, hence price drops and introduction of a new SKU, minus Kinect.

It's a bit arrogant, they could have responded better. Like congratulating MS for coming to the same conclusion on pricing as Sony and the gameing community did almost a year ago.

$499 was insane to bigin with, and althought I think it's a great move I would have cut the price and kept Kinect in the box. I can't see Xbox without Kinect, Xbox is Kinect at this point.



Seece said:
Torillian said:
surprised they did this so quickly, thought it would take another year or so, but if it's going to happen it's better to do it sooner rather than later. Sucks for early adopters but that's always the case with price cuts, you should know what you're getting into if you buy a console on launch or shortly after.


Sorry? Doesn't suck for me, I like Kinect (so do many others) and would still buy the sku with the kinect. Don't let the people raging on about wanting a kinectless sku  cloud the overall opinion of it.

Doesnt your comment go both ways though?

How do you gauge what the overall opinion is of Kinect's inclusion?



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BenVTrigger said:
One thing is for sure.

Phil Spencer is an absolute beast, and at this rate will have done more good for the Xbox brand than Mattrick did in the entire time he was with the company.

Praise Based Spencer.

Well thats not hard tho is it, Mattrick did nothing but destroy the brand. 

 

Do like phil tho. :)



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Games will be the deciding factor, exclusive ones. As yet, that hasn't been enough to get any victories for MS even with net pricing that is lower than PS4 (eg : XB1 @ $449 w/Titanfall = $390 console, free kinect, $60 game).

E3 should be interesting. I have a sneaking feeling that Microsoft doesn't have any surprises ready for 2014, but 2015 could start heating up. Whereas Sony played it pretty tight last E3.



DerNebel said:
Now the competition can really start.

I'm kinda inclined to search for all the people that said they'd never drop kinect.


I dont see the point in doing something like that. MS seemed pretty dedicated to Kinect. There was good reason to believe that they wouldnt have dropped Kinect.

And on the flip side of that, there was also good motivation as to why they should drop it.

I dont see either opinion as being unreasonable.



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I love my X1 with Kinect if you feel like you got cheated then cry me a river. Sorry but it's the truth if $100 difference wasn't a big deal when you bought the console why is it a big deal now?



kowenicki said:
Shinobi-san said:
kowenicki said:
Shortiloe said:
lawl, Launch-buyers are fucked and I guess very pissed, if that happens.


why?

I'm happy as a pig in shit and love my kinect enabled xbox.


You really dont see the reason why some early adopters would be pissed?

early adopters always get the finger... whats new?  it's what we sign up for.

PS4 early adopters didn't.. :p



NobleTeam360 said:
DarkWraith said:
"[A Kinect-less Xbox One] is not in our plans at all," he stressed.

"As we've said from the very beginning, we believe Kinect is an absolutely integral part of the Xbox One experience."

[Harvey Eagle, Xbox UK Marketing Chief]

flip flopping like a US politician these days. anyone who has confidence in this company is delusional to the extreme level of religious fundamentalists.

You could complain or you could 


You would need a Kinect for that



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