I don't decide....the people do. FF14 sales.......yup this ain't a system seller. Get it? We are talking games many would buy the hardware for...not a handful. Wanna talk about which console has the best niche and indie titles? Make a thread.

PS4 more variety? Absolutely. That's me talking. More system sellers? Highly questionable.

He don't decide, lack of sales shows it.

didn't you just use sales numbers as measuring a game's relevance? so I guess you enjoy "superior games with more relevance" because you look at their sales numbers...? Nice contradiction.

Yes, i'll enjoy myself as i have. Playing PS4's true exclusives, while having the ability to play TF and GW on my PC. Best possible scenario without splashing the cash on too many consoles :)

Good point. Does not change the fact the 360 had a whole years sales advantage and that a lot of the years the Ps3 was a whole $200 more than the 360 in the USA not just $100. I kind of left that hole in my thought process out on purpose . The 360 did have better live games all gen in my opinion, but it did not count as much towards falling behind the gen. 

In fact, I like the 360 hardware better than the PS3, including the controller. Overall, I prefer the PS3's games and the companies policies more. Not a fan of MS's policies mostly. I cannot comment on the new ones both much yet though. 

Libraries sell systems. 7.5 versus 4.4...ps4 is doing fine.

I'm not talking about every individual gamer am I? Else everything would be a system seller, please learn the lingo. System seller = games that will move an actual number of hardware off shelves.

Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare isn't indie. PS4 is selling well because of goodwill and a cheaper price. Sunset will do 2m easy, that's relatively big. I don't think you realise how little indies sell tho? Apart from Minecraft, even the "biggest" of indie's only sell around 2m, most struggle for a few hundred k. They play second fiddle to big AAA retail releases.

I did, losing allows one to revaluate priorities. But my past personality isn't what we are talking about. Nice try, and deflection.

I am not talking about PC. This is X1 vs PS4. By mentioning the PC, you by default concede  by admitting you need something other then a PS4 to do what only a X1 can do.

Ah back to the price, yet x1 was the same price in march, 360 was cheaper then ps3 and had ax extra year and still ps3 sold better....Hmm, there is a LOT more to it then price, public perception, brsnd recognition, ...saying it's just price is a gross simplification of how global markets and the cunsumer systems work.

Again, yuo dont get to decide whats relevant and whats not to fit your argument, it doesn;'t work tjhat way, I know several people who got a ps4 due to it's already strong indie support.

Libraries sell systems, and people know sony always delivers, sony first party studios are not getting paid to stare at walls all day, people know Uncharteds, new ip's are coming as well.

Libraries along with price, public perception (ingrained bias in some countries) controller, OS, friends, paywall incentives ect.

If you really think sales are based on libraries then XB1 would be winning, because your average joe cares more about Sunset Overdrive, Titanfall, Dead Rising and Forza than Rime, Transitor and Resogun, to quote you, the sales show that.

Both have indies and AAA titles, but MS has more AAA and Sony has more Indie.

I "need"? lol. I'll always have a PC no matter what. I use it for everything. And it's my main gaming platform. What I do need is a PS4 to play PS4 exclusives, like i needed a PS3 to play PS3 exclusives.