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Seece said:
planetzeon said:
Seece said:
planetzeon said:
Seece said:

They don't tho, they don't sell consoles and they don't get attention, this seems to be something people are clinging onto this gen. The big titles are what get people excited and buying consoles and the reason the industry is as big as it is, not indies.

Rime can not compare to Sunset Overdrive even if you think Rime is more fun.


So now your changing your argument, your first post never said anything about only BIG titles, you even mentioned indies Plants versus zopmbies. Your list is a biased joke. Sony also has not announced most of their big proojects, sony has more games right now then x1.

That was my whole point, I've always maintained this.

You mention halo anniveersary, ignore TLOU.

Halo Anniversary is an entirely new game/remake, it's not just a port of a year old game ...

You mention Plants versus zombiwes, leave out a bunch of great PS4 indies like resogun, Outlast, Dead Nation, Don;t starve.

Garden Warfare indie? Lol you realise it's a TPS retail game right? Nothing indie about it. I also left out Peggle 2, Max, Lococycle and Killer Instinct.

Where is MLB the show?

 

Where is deep down?

 

Where is planet side 2?

 

FF14?

 

Your list is horribly boased. Some on your list is not going to make 2014 for xbox either, where is UC4?

All those games are coming to XB1 in 2014, QB and SO confirmed.


The first 2 should definitely be added, the last 2 are none events. Just like Project Spark, Zoo Tycoon and Kinect Sports Rivals, great games but relatively non events.

My point is the games that get people buying systems.


You dont decide that every individual buys a game system for them not what SEECE thinks. Sorrry you dont get to move the goal posts to suit your argyment,. You brought up planst versus zombies contradicting yuor own post.All those games appealed to some people period. PS4 sales speak for themselves.

 

PS:: Sunset overdriv  wont be a big game.... it's from a b level developer.

I'm not talking about every individual gamer am I? Else everything would be a system seller, please learn the lingo. System seller = games that will move an actual number of hardware off shelves.


Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare isn't indie. PS4 is selling well because of goodwill and a cheaper price. Sunset will do 2m easy, that's relatively big. I don't think you realise how little indies sell tho? Apart from Minecraft, even the "biggest" of indie's only sell around 2m, most struggle for a few hundred k. They play second fiddle to big AAA retail releases.

Ah back to the price, yet x1 was the same price in march, 360 was cheaper then ps3 and had ax extra year and still ps3 sold better....Hmm, there is a LOT more to it then price, public perception, brsnd recognition, ...saying it's just price is a gross simplification of how global markets and the cunsumer systems work.

 

Again, yuo dont get to decide whats relevant and whats not to fit your argument, it doesn;'t work tjhat way, I know several people who got a ps4 due to it's already strong indie support.

 

Libraries sell systems, and people know sony always delivers, sony first party studios are not getting paid to stare at walls all day, people know Uncharteds, new ip's are coming as well.